Re: [Evolution] Feature request: Pop-before-IMAP

[guenther <guenther rudersport de>]

Would you mind using a MUA that knows about In-Reply-To: headers and
actually knows how to quote? ;-)


> > Have you tried going offline and online again (little ion bottom-left)?
>
> Well, yes, actually I have, and that does work... except that I have a
> bunch of folders marked to make available offline, so then it goes to
> download all the new messages, which in some folders (high-traffic mailing
> lists) this can take a while. It's faster to close/reopen Evolution.
>
> > IMAP is not supposed to re-login, as the connection stays established.
>
> Well, yes, I knew that. And Evolution is actually one of the only MUAs
> I've played around with that actually obeys this. Most of them re-login
> every few minutes, and some are always unexpectedly dropping IMAP
> connections... good job Evolution!
>
> But this actually brings up another problem I have with Evolution--when I
> mark folders for offline use, Evolution only downloads new messages. Is
> there any way I can get it to download old messages, too? I'm using 1.2.4
> (mandrake package).

It's good to know, Evo handles IMAP connections better than most others 
do. Evo hackers tend to be very strict on RFCs. :-)

However, the same hackers admit the IMAP code to be not as good as it
should be and as they want -- I am looking forward to the rewrite.


> > Even more, IMHO pop-after-smtp feels plain wrong and should not be
> offered as an option. I could be wrong though...
>
> Yes, I can see your point of view. It's a bit of a hackish way of
> authenticating a user, but it's super easy to set up, and pretty
> effective. My main point is that if you're going to offer it at all, why
> not allow it to work with IMAP too?

I see your point, too. If that isn't intended, it should not be offered.

We should leave the decision to the knowledgeable hackers. I just filed
it in bugzilla -- let's see, if it gets closed... ;-)

http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43126


> > Don't you have any other option to authenticate against the SMTP server?
>
> Not yet... am still learning about this stuff, and because pop-before-smtp
> works (except for timeing out because Evolution actually does IMAP
> correctly, while other broken MUAs don't need this because they're
> broken...)
>
> What would you suggest to be a better/easier way to authenticate a user to
> SMTP? I'm using Postfix with Courier-IMAP, using both PAM and MySQL to
> authenticate users.
>
> Not looking for you to give me a long solution here--just a suggestion of
> method. I can track down how to do it.

Can you increase the time for pop-before-smtp? Would be just another
hack, but would do you a favor instantly.

To set up your SMTP server for another authentication method, try
http://www.google.com/linux and search for 'smtp auth cram md5'. The
first link looks promising.

...guenther


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