RE: [Evolution] Evolutiuon 1.4 unusable :(

["Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>]

Thanks Jeff, I think you got my point.

Carlson

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com] 
Sent: June 26, 2003 12:37 PM
To: Cabral, Carlson
Cc: Larry Ewing; Mark R. Bowyer; 'Roland Orre'; evolution lists ximian com
Subject: RE: [Evolution] Evolutiuon 1.4 unusable :(


appology accepted, and you don't owe me a beer (I don't drink) :-)

Jeff

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:02, Cabral, Carlson wrote:
> Ok Jeff,
>  
> I apologize for anything I have said that insulted you. That was not 
> my intent, although I must recognize that comparing Outlook to Evo is 
> a bit hard for anyone working on a product as good as Evo. And I know 
> you guys do work hard to make it the best PIM out there.
>  
> Like I said at the end of my previous message, I am sorry if I hurt 
> your feelings. Maybe when I am in the Boston area I can buy you a beer
> ;-) OR when you're in the Toronto area I will buy you some nice 
> Canadian lunch with a beer or two. How's that? No hard feelings, Jeff.
>  
> Have a good one,
>  
> Carlson
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com] 
>         Sent: June 26, 2003 11:55 AM
>         To: Cabral, Carlson
>         Cc: Larry Ewing; Mark R. Bowyer; 'Roland Orre';
>         evolution lists ximian com
>         Subject: RE: [Evolution] Evolutiuon 1.4 unusable :(
>         
>         
>         On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 11:48, Cabral, Carlson wrote: 
>         > Jeff,
>         > 
>         > I don't really see where the hostility is in this thread... I
think you're
>         > iverreacting. I guess a little more caffeine would do you 
> some good :-)
>         
>                 Also, I am not sure you noticed, but Evo 1.4.1 is
>                 taking just as long to be
>                 released as any proprietary (namely M$) "patch". And
>                 yes, I am using Outlook
>                 to compose this message because at work I can't do
>                 anything else. At least,
>                 it works foro the most part.
>         
>         that's not "hostility"? pretty hard to take that any other
>         way...
>         
>         > The way I see it though, is that the reason we are reporting
these bugs, and
>         > subscribing to this list, and all those good tings, it's because
_we care_
>         > about Evolution. If we didn't, none of us would even bother to
look for some
>         > answers. To be honest, Mozilla Mail is a good client, but I
don't use it and
>         > I don't care if it's broken or not.
>         
>         I understand this, and I'm glad people have an interest. but
>         insulting is is not the way to make it come across that way.
>         
>         after all, we are people too. and we have feelings. I am 100%
>         positive that you would not have taken kindly to your first
>         message either.
>         
>         Jeff
>         
>         > Cheers,
>         > 
>         > Carlson
>         > 
>         > P.S. Jeff, I was just replying to this message when I saw your
other one
>         > coming. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. And I _did_ ask my ISP.
They're
>         > useless, unlike you guys. Chill out bro, it's Summer after all
:-)
>         > 
>         > -----Original Message-----
>         > From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com] 
>         > Sent: June 26, 2003 11:41 AM
>         > To: Larry Ewing
>         > Cc: Mark R. Bowyer; Cabral, Carlson; 'Roland Orre';
>         > evolution lists ximian com
>         > Subject: RE: [Evolution] Evolutiuon 1.4 unusable :(
>         > 
>         > 
>         > the emacs keybindings is also suckage in gtk2's design, isn't
it? thus
>         > making it extremely difficult to make it work right in evo...
>         > 
>         > so for all this hostility against us in this thread, it is
really
>         > misdirected...
>         > 
>         > Jeff
>         > 
>         > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 11:35, Larry Ewing wrote:
>         > > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 10:18, Mark R. Bowyer wrote:
>         > > > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 16:06, Cabral, Carlson wrote:
>         > > > > 2 - Another one I found out last night: when composing an
e-mail 
>         > > > > message, you can't simply drag and drop a file to attach
to a 
>         > > > > message. All you you get is the path where the file is.
You have 
>         > > > > to click on the "Attach" icon on the composer window and
choose 
>         > > > > your file. Needless to say, this WORKED before with Evo
1.2.x
>         > > > 
>         > > > I ask and had this answered last week.  While you used to be
able to 
>         > > > drag emails anywhere onto the composer and have it attach
them 
>         > > > properly in 1.2, in 1.4 you have th drop them onto the
"Header" part 
>         > > > of the window for this to work, not the text entry bottom
half.  
>         > > > Then it works.
>         > > > 
>         > > 
>         > > Just to make it clear, this is because dnd in gtk+ is badly
designed, 
>         > > and there is almost no way that we can make dnd work properly
for 
>         > > everyone.  I would happily fix it if I could :(
>         > > 
>         > > --Larry
>         > > 
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>         Jeffrey Stedfast
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