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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Still can't get Galeon to be default browser (Stephen Kuhn)
   2. Re: upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Sean R. Kirkpatrick)
   3. Re: Still can't get Galeon to be default browser (guenther)
   4. Re: What's going on with line wraps (Not Zed)
   5. Re: Need Help Debugging 1.4.2 (CVS) (Not Zed)
   6. Printing contact list from Evolution 1.4 (Ralph Sanford)
   7. Re: 1.4 Starting VERY slow with SSL/IMAP (Not Zed)
   8. Re: Unable to open addressbook (Sean Russell)
   9. Re: Need Help Debugging 1.4.2 (CVS) (Lonnie Borntreger)
  10. Re: 1.4 Starting VERY slow with SSL/IMAP (Rob Snow)
  11. Re: How to connect to RSS feeds? (Alessio Bragadini)
  12. Printing problems (Daniele Paoni)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Still can't get Galeon to be default browser
From: Stephen Kuhn <stephen kuhn gmx net>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Kuhn Media Australia
Date: 10 Jul 2003 10:28:43 +1000

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:16, Leon Adato wrote:

Problem:
When a receive an email with an HTML link, I click on it and Mozilla
starts up.

Desired configuration
I would like Galeon to be used instead.

Environment
Evolution 1.2.4
Mandrake 9.1
GNOME desktop

Troubleshooting steps taken so far
      * Under (start), Configuration, Gnome, Advanced, Preferred
        Applications, Web Browser tab, set "Galeon" for "Select a Web
        Browser" radio button
      * In the same window, set the "custom web browser" option to
        *gnome-moz-remote --newwin "%s"* (no asterisks, but the quotes
        are there)
      * the command "gconftool -g
        /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/unknown/command" reports "galeon
        %s" (when the first bullet point above is in effect) or
        gnome-moz-remote --newwin "%s" when the second bullet is in
        effect.
All comments, thoughts and advice appreciated and welcome.


Leon, have you tried to edit the ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome/Gnome file?
It appears as though you haven't tried this trick yet - example:

[URL Handlers]
default-show=galeon "%s"
info-show=nautilus --no-desktop "%s"
man-show=nautilus --no-desktop "%s"
ghelp-show=nautilus --no-desktop "%s"

It's a help to have galeon setup in gconf-editor - in as many places as
you can find it...but this text file seems to be that "magic" config
file that will make your life happy again...

--
Thu Jul 10 10:25:00 EST 2003
 10:25:00 up 3 days, 11:57,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.09
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|            __    __          |kuhn media australia            |
|           /-oo /| |'-.       |http://kma.0catch.com           |
|          .\__/ || |   |      |================================|
|       _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'      |stephen kuhn                    |
|      | /  \__.`=._) (_       | email: skuhn telpacific com au |
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3
     Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

Death rays don't kill people, people kill people!!


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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
From: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <mlist bogusville us>
To: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 09 Jul 2003 17:43:27 -0700

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 00:35, Not Zed wrote:

Try removing the
mbox.ev-summary file(s).


Partial success with this. It seemed to work for the Sent folder, but
none of the others. Still missing all of the other folders. I decided to
check the sizes of the other mbox folders, assuming that this is where
the real mail is stored. Turns out those files all have 0 length. It
looks like all of it is gone after all (short of the massive mbox
archive I've got on the server.)

For the most part, all of the mbox folders have the same date and time,
which is the date and time, I think, of when I did the upgrade to 1.4
(but I'm guessing here as I don't recall exactly when I upgraded.)

I guess that I'd ask, is there anything else that I could have done
that would have caused *all* of this to disappear? I don't recall
doing anything differently, and execpt for the strange crashes that
I had during the first day or so, I've had no other strange happenings.

Sigh. Looks like I'm fair and well hosed! :(


Sometimes its good just to let go ... :)


Here I go...

Sean



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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Still can't get Galeon to be default browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: leon adatofamily com
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 10 Jul 2003 03:02:38 +0200



Problem:
When a receive an email with an HTML link, I click on it and Mozilla
starts up.

Desired configuration
I would like Galeon to be used instead.

Environment
Evolution 1.2.4
Mandrake 9.1
GNOME desktop

Troubleshooting steps taken so far

[...]

All the mentioned steps apply to the Gnome 2.x desktop, so do not forget
them. ;)

FYI: Evolution 1.2.x is still a Gnome 1.4 app, despite the fact that MDK
9.1 ships with a Gnome 2.2 desktop. Thus, to customize the default
browser for Evo, you will need the Gnome 1.x way.


Stephens notes are right -- the above just to clarify the differences.
For more infos you can search the archives for 'mozilla-remote.sh' and
will find repeated posts by me, describing it in detail.

...guenther


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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] What's going on with line wraps
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Ian Perryman <iperryma altera com>
Cc: evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 10 Jul 2003 11:12:50 +0930


We dont read rtf natively, so something else is doing the html
translation (or sending it as text that we translate to html).  i.e.
outlook or exchange.

I suggest creating a bug on bugzilla.ximian.com and attaching an example
message - even if it just gets closed with 'not our problem' :)

 Michael

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 00:33, Ian Perryman wrote:

Hi am relatively new to evolution, but I like it a lot so far.  I could
not find this topic in the archives nor FAQ.

I am working in an organization that is almost entirely Windoze based.
Most people are using Outlook in a native windoze 2000 environment.

I am running RH8.0, now with Evolution 1.4 obtained with red-carpet. I
use Evolution to connect to the exchange server using imap.  I also have
vmware running win2k which I use mostly for running Outlook Calendar (I
know I should try Ximian connector ... one day I will).  I often have
both outlook (inside vmware) running simultaneously with Evolution
running natively.  Both are pointed at the same set of email on the
exchange server.

Anyway, most people use the default settings in Outlook to send messages
in rich text format (RTF).

One thing that has been annoying me is that the message upon receipt has
all of the paragraphs chopped up into individual lines each about 70
chars long.   This process does not seem handle long url's well.
Usually, long urls get mangled, and I cannot use the message to hop to
the url directly.

I have tested this and it happens even if I create the message in
outlook (in vmware) and save it to my drafts folder, and then view it
from evolution.  That is the message is never really "sent", only saved.

I would have thought there would be some form of RTF to HTML mapping
that would allow the message to be handled "nicely" so that line breaks
would not be required.

As far as I can tell there is no control for how to handle received
messages.   Is there a setting somewhere that I am missing?

Regards,
Ian Perryman
Ottawa Technology Center
Altera Corporation.


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need Help Debugging 1.4.2 (CVS)
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 10 Jul 2003 11:15:56 +0930



1 - gtkHTML doesn't use the same monospace font that other gnome apps
use.  gnome-font-properties shows whatever font rendered properly (and
I've tried many), but when viewing or editing plain-text, it looks like
the attachment.  Any ideas?


Check the mail font settings (settings->mail preferences).

It might be set to override and to some odd old font.



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Message: 6
From: Ralph Sanford <rsanford telusplanet net>
Reply-To: rsanford telusplanet net
To: Evolution Users List <evolution ximian com>
Date: 09 Jul 2003 20:01:18 -0600
Subject: [Evolution] Printing contact list from Evolution 1.4

I am having a problem with printing the contact list from Evolution 1.4
The printed text is very small print (6 or 7 font ??) and the output has
a raw appearance where the addresses are a single run-along sentence
with a [] (actually a small square box) showing where the carriage
returns should be.  The contact list is almost 400 names and when
printed with Evolution 1.2.4 using a readable font and nice layout fills
up 38 pages.  Under Evolution 1.4 the same contact list only fills 18
pages but needs magnifying glasses to be read.

This is with Evolution 1.4 on SuSE 8.2, using KDE but the same problem
exists when I try printing the contact list from a Gnome session.
Emails seem to print fine with the requested 11 font.

To print the contact list I "select all" then file/print. The preview
will only show one page (where there should be 18 pages to view) and the
top of the preview has "No visible output was created." showing in LARGE
BOLD RED lettering.  BTW if I tty and only print a single contact the
preview stills shows the first full page of the contact list with the
first 18 contacts and the red letter warning, not the single selected
contact.  If I ignore the red letter warning the contact list will be
printed in its entirety with the small raw printing.

Any ideas how to fix this??

BTW is it also possible to get the Evolution/Gnome printing system to
use Letter paper size as default and change the margins?  GEdit 2.201
and Mozilla 1.4, which I assume are gnome2 apps, seem to work fine.

Thanks for any help.

--
Ralph Sanford       -       If your government does not trust you,
rsanford telusplanet net   -   should you trust your government?

DH/DSS Key   -   0x7A1BEA01


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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] 1.4 Starting VERY slow with SSL/IMAP
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Rob Snow <lists dympna com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 10 Jul 2003 11:29:37 +0930

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 03:13, Rob Snow wrote:

Let me give the entire setup so I don't leave anything out:

Server:
FreeBSD-Stable (4.8)
UW-IMAP 2002(a) SSL/Cleartext passwords
IMAP folders = ~/mail/
UNIX format (flatfiles)
Celeron 850 + 768MB of RAM
100Mbit

Client:
Gentoo-stable (except for Evo and a couple of other userland apps)
Evo 1.4 (from the masked ebuild in portage)
Setup to connect forced SSL
Evo has the password
Athlon-XP 2.0GHz + 512MB RAM
100Mbit

The mail account in question has about ~360MB of mail in it, mostly

under

~/mail/Archives.

Evolution takes around 60seconds from launch to become usable.  Kmail

takes

~5-10seconds on the same account, server, etc.


Well, if you're doing things like vFoldering on any of the folders,
evolution might necessarily be having to do more work right off the bat,
e.g. checking all folders for new messages and fetching their headers.
In that case the direct comparison wouldn't be valid.

We also get headers using a more complex query, because we use header
fields not available in the imap envelope query to do vFoldering on
mailing lists.  uw-imapd apparently bogs down with this, i think.

You could try running evolution with CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG set to 1 in the
environment, that will dump the imap traffic, and might show up
something that doesn't look right ...

But bluntly, we know evolution's imap implementation is a pig, and hope
to replace it for 1.6 (but its a big task, particularly to distill the
features, and all of the server bugs we're working around in the current
code).  I also want to add some options, like if you don't care about
vfoldering on mailing list headers, you can tell it to use more
efficient imap queries to improve startup time.


I will add that there are a few other files in the /mail/ directory due

to my usage of

OpenWebMail as my prmary mail client at this time.  Those files are

.db's, etc. (don't

imagine they are a problem, but including their existence for

completeness)


Shouldn't be unless its trying to list them as folders.



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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unable to open addressbook
From: Sean Russell <Sean elk-rapids com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 09 Jul 2003 22:16:01 -0400

Changed to the compat-db3 rpm and I still have the same problem.
Evolution will not create a new addressbook and cannot open the
.ics files for tasks and calendar that it does create.

But thanks for the info, I'll file that for future reference.

Sean Russell



On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:55, Michael J. Rensing wrote:

Hmm. I had the same problem with RH9. It has db4 installed. The solution
was to install compat-db-3.3.11-4

So now I have

compat-db-3.3.11-4
db4-4.0.14-20

And my addressbook is happy again!

Regards,
Michael

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 06:29, Sean Russell wrote:

Hello,

I keep getting this error when I try to access the contacts folder.
Tasks and Calendar also give the same errors. I have tried everything

I

have been able to find, downgraded to a recommended build of DB3,
tried installing from the Ximian installer nothing has resolved the
issue. I am currently reinstalled by the evolution RPM for redhat
rawhide. Any help available would be greatly appreciated.


OS: Redhat-rawhide
        db3-3.1.17-7
        evolution-1.4.0-2



My local folders contain the following

local/Contacts
        create-initial          -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadata.xml     -rw-r--r--
/local/Calendar
        calendar.ics            -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadata.xml     -rw-r--r--
/local/Tasks
        tasks.ics               -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadate.xml     -rw-r--r--


Sean Russell


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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need Help Debugging 1.4.2 (CVS)
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:39:04 -0500

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:45, Not Zed wrote:

1 - gtkHTML doesn't use the same monospace font that other gnome apps
use.  gnome-font-properties shows whatever font rendered properly (and
I've tried many), but when viewing or editing plain-text, it looks

like

the attachment.  Any ideas?


Check the mail font settings (settings->mail preferences).


Ooh.  I didn't even notice that the font preferences were back.  Very
cool.


It might be set to override and to some odd old font.


Actually, if I tell it to override and specify the exact same font set
as in gnome-font-properties, it works fine.  When set to "use the same
font as other applications", then it looks weird.

Oh well.  That's MUCH better.  It was getting hard to read my email.

Thanks,
Lonnie




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Message: 10
From: "Rob Snow" <lists dympna com>
To: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] 1.4 Starting VERY slow with SSL/IMAP
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:14:19 -0600

Thanks for the reply on this.  It looks like I'm going to hold off until

1.6 then...dammit!

I've been following Evo since before release and I was hoping that 1.4 was

the

animal that was going to set me free!

I'm not doing vFolders or such, just plain IMAP access to my mail.  I may

look at

breaking out the archives into a different account or unsubscribing, etc.

to see if I can

get workable performance.

Additionally, I'm in a slack time for the next two weeks and if I can

provide some

assistance with dumps/traces/protocol logs or the like, I'd be happy to

help out.


-Rob

On 10 Jul 2003 11:29:37 +0930, Not Zed wrote

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 03:13, Rob Snow wrote:

Let me give the entire setup so I don't leave anything out:

Server:
FreeBSD-Stable (4.8)
UW-IMAP 2002(a) SSL/Cleartext passwords
IMAP folders = ~/mail/
UNIX format (flatfiles)
Celeron 850 + 768MB of RAM
100Mbit

Client:
Gentoo-stable (except for Evo and a couple of other userland apps)
Evo 1.4 (from the masked ebuild in portage)
Setup to connect forced SSL
Evo has the password
Athlon-XP 2.0GHz + 512MB RAM
100Mbit

The mail account in question has about ~360MB of mail in it, mostly

under

~/mail/Archives.

Evolution takes around 60seconds from launch to become usable.  Kmail

takes

~5-10seconds on the same account, server, etc.


Well, if you're doing things like vFoldering on any of the folders,
evolution might necessarily be having to do more work right off the
bat,
e.g. checking all folders for new messages and fetching their
headers. In that case the direct comparison wouldn't be valid.

We also get headers using a more complex query, because we use header
fields not available in the imap envelope query to do vFoldering on
mailing lists.  uw-imapd apparently bogs down with this, i think.

You could try running evolution with CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG set to 1 in
the environment, that will dump the imap traffic, and might show up
something that doesn't look right ...

But bluntly, we know evolution's imap implementation is a pig, and hope
to replace it for 1.6 (but its a big task, particularly to distill
the features, and all of the server bugs we're working around in the
current code).  I also want to add some options, like if you don't
care about vfoldering on mailing list headers, you can tell it to
use more efficient imap queries to improve startup time.


I will add that there are a few other files in the /mail/ directory

due to my usage of

OpenWebMail as my prmary mail client at this time.  Those files are

.db's, etc.

(don't

imagine they are a problem, but including their existence for

completeness)


Shouldn't be unless its trying to list them as folders.


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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to connect to RSS feeds?
From: Alessio Bragadini <alessio albourne com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: APL Financial Services (Overseas) Ltd
Date: 10 Jul 2003 09:34:55 +0300

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 15:36, Ted Anderson wrote:


The lockergnome site seems to be windows-specific,


Sorry, but this phrase doesn't make sense.


and I can't find anything that looks like an actual RSS link in the code
that pops up.  Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe someone who knows
more about this can tell us how to use the lockergnome feed with evo.


XML icon points to
http://www.lockergnome.com/rss/windowsdaily.php

cut&paste into Summary -> Settings -> News Feeds -> New Feed
and you're done


*what* information do you put into the "Add news feed" screen (it's
just a name and a URL, but what URL?) exactly.


The URL for the RSS/XML file (or dynamic script that generates it, as
the former)

--
Alessio Bragadini <alessio albourne com>
APL Financial Services (Overseas) Ltd


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Message: 12
From: Daniele Paoni <daniele libertyline com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 10 Jul 2003 08:35:22 +0200
Subject: [Evolution] Printing problems

Hi
I cannot print mail messages with evo 1.4; when i print a plain text
message the printer gives an error.
If i try to print to a postscript or pdf file the resulting file is
broken.

Is this a known issue ?

Best regards
Daniele




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