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Today's Topics:

   1. What's the minimum hardware requirement of Evolution on linux?
(Yu-Hui Calvin Liu)
   2. Re: not quoting when replying to message... (Not Zed)
   3. Re: Any way to get compose to just offer a text dialog? (Not Zed)
   4. Re: upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Not Zed)
   5. Re: expressions in filters (Not Zed)
   6. Re: excessive HD access when resizing columns (Not Zed)
   7. Re: GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING (Not Zed)
   8. Re: Any way to get compose to just offer a text dialog? (Jack
Coates)
   9. Re: upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Sean R. Kirkpatrick)
  10. Re: upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Jeffrey Stedfast)
  11. Re: What's the minimum hardware requirement of
       Evolution on linux? (Jeffrey Stedfast)
  12. Re: upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Not Zed)
  13. Unable to open addressbook (Sean Russell)
  14. Re: Unable to open addressbook (guenther)
  15. Re: Unable to open addressbook (Frederic Crozat)

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Message: 1
From: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <Calvin Liu Sun COM>
To: evolution ximian com
Date: 07 Jul 2003 10:52:40 +0800
Subject: [Evolution] What's the minimum hardware requirement of Evolution
on linux?

I can't find such info anywhere.
Thanks.
Calvin


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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [Evolution] not quoting when replying to message...
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Grant Bierman <gbierman mochamail com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:39:25 +0930


I can only suggest you run 'evolution' from a terminal and see if it
spits out anything.

It could be gtkhtml related, or not ...


On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 06:27, Grant Bierman wrote:
I setup Evolution on my parents debian box some time ago, and until
recently everything was working fine. Then for some reason evolution
would not quote a message when they went to reply to it. It didn't
happen all the time or in all folders, but now it doesn't provide a
quote at all anymore.

Was using version 1.2, and have now installed version 1.4 from debian
unstable. I've un-installed/purged, remove settings, re-install, all to
no avail. Does anyone have any idea or clue on whats going on and how to
fix it?

Thank you for your time.

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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Any way to get compose to just offer a text
dialog?
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Scott Bronson <bronson rinspin com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:40:27 +0930


Good question, i'm not too fond of this new behaviour either, but
there's probably a reason for it.

There's certainly no option to control it.


On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 08:01, Scott Bronson wrote:
Right now, when I try to paste text into the Compose dialog, it gets
indented, with this weird flashy rectangle around it.  When I try to
delete a single character the whole thing gets deleted.  Finally, when
I send the mail, it doesn't look like what I typed in (the indenting
and whitespacing has all changed).  This happens to the .sig too but
that's easy to fix: just turn off the .sig.

It's very frustrating!!

Is there any way to get Evo to offer a plain, dumb text input dialog?
Thanks,

     - Scott



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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <mlist bogusville us>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:51:16 +0930


I presume you mean under the folder tree?

All i can think of is that the 'folder-metadata.xml' files in each
directory are somehow emptied or broken.

Any warnings when you start it from a terminal?


They should contain something like this (for each folder):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<efolder>
 <type>mail</type
 <description>Some description</description>
</efolder>

(at least, for mail folders)

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 02:06, Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:
I just upgraded to evo 1.4 via red-carpet and *all* of my filed mail
disappeared. Drilling down into the evolution/mail directory I see that
it's all still there, but I can't see it in the folders in evo. What
happened?

  Sean


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] expressions in filters
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Patrick Morand <patrickmorand free fr>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:53:44 +0930


I wont comment on the validity of this approach, but what you're after
is 'regex match' and not 'expression'.  I can't remember if 1.0.x had
it.

'expression' is for an internal evolution-filtering expression in its
s-expression language.  It should probably be marked more clearly, or
just removed ...

 Michael

On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 23:41, Patrick Morand wrote:
Hello,

I'm using evolution 1.0.5 on debian/woody and trying to implement
filters against spam.

Everything's OK when using filters on subject.

I want to filter all messages having "unknown" in the "Received:"
specific header.

I can't use the "specific header" option because this header is repeated
many times and "specific header" looks only in the first occurence.

So i'm trying tu use the "expression" option

When i put something like ^Received:.*unknown.* in the expression's
value, i obtain an error dialog while filtering.

This dialog says : "unexpected token encountered ..."

If somebody can help


Thank's


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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] excessive HD access when resizing columns
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:57:04 +0930

indeed there is

On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 03:48, Michael Agbaglo wrote:
Hi !

There's a reproduceable phenomenon which occurs e.g. when I resize the
subject column in the Mail view. When the mouse cursor turns into <-->
and I hold down the left mouse button, the HD activity increases
significantly until the button is released.

M.


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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Tig Kerkman <tig kenosha org>
Cc: Evolution Mail List <evolution ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:59:17 +0930


Maybe a backtrace would help, but then again it might not.

 Z

On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 00:51, Tig Kerkman wrote:
Evolution 1.4 on Redhat 8.0.

I have upgraded to Evolution 1.4 from 1.2 via red-carpet.  Everything is
working except that I cannot print.  The error I get at the command line
is:

(evolution:4702): GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING **: The CUPS printer
trn1n could not be created



Then I get a Segmentation fault and evolution crashes.

I can print from other applications, and from the command line.

HELP.....

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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Any way to get compose to just offer a text
dialog?
From: Jack Coates <jack monkeynoodle org>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Monkeynoodle.Org
Date: 06 Jul 2003 20:50:04 -0700

Drives my wife nuts -- she edits a newsletter that involves copying text
from tons of tiny emails into one large email. She's discovered a weird
workaround, apparently if you select from the bottom up instead of top
down it's less likely to happen?

Jack

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 20:10, Not Zed wrote:
Good question, i'm not too fond of this new behaviour either, but
there's probably a reason for it.

There's certainly no option to control it.


On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 08:01, Scott Bronson wrote:
Right now, when I try to paste text into the Compose dialog, it gets
indented, with this weird flashy rectangle around it.  When I try to
delete a single character the whole thing gets deleted.  Finally, when
I send the mail, it doesn't look like what I typed in (the indenting
and whitespacing has all changed).  This happens to the .sig too but
that's easy to fix: just turn off the .sig.

It's very frustrating!!

Is there any way to get Evo to offer a plain, dumb text input dialog?
Thanks,

     - Scott



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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
From: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <mlist bogusville us>
To: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 06 Jul 2003 21:13:02 -0700

Yup, under the folder tree I see the folders themselves, but opening one
of them known to have (or supposed to have) filed mail shows nothing at
all. Yet, way down under the evo/mail dir I can find the actual contents
that should be there.

"Warnings" are somewhat peculiar. I get no errors at all during startup.
But ever since I upgraded (with red-carpet the other day), various
components of evo have been crashing left and right. There seems to be
no rhyme or reason in how and when things crash - just this morning
while updating a contact, it crashed. Yesterday composing a reply, it
crashed. Sometimes the component dies, other times the entire app dies.

This is very onerous - I've got semesters worth of email from students
that I need to get access to.

Thanks for your reply.

Sean


On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 20:21, Not Zed wrote:
I presume you mean under the folder tree?

All i can think of is that the 'folder-metadata.xml' files in each
directory are somehow emptied or broken.

Any warnings when you start it from a terminal?


They should contain something like this (for each folder):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<efolder>
 <type>mail</type
 <description>Some description</description>
</efolder>

(at least, for mail folders)

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 02:06, Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:
I just upgraded to evo 1.4 via red-carpet and *all* of my filed mail
disappeared. Drilling down into the evolution/mail directory I see
that
it's all still there, but I can't see it in the folders in evo. What
happened?

  Sean


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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <mlist bogusville us>
Cc: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>, evolution lists ximian com
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:42:39 -0400

did you install XD2? I've heard that "Installing Evolution without
installing XD2 is asking for problems", so just checking.

if you have, please send us backtraces of your crashes so we can fix
them.

Jeff

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:13, Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:
Yup, under the folder tree I see the folders themselves, but opening one
of them known to have (or supposed to have) filed mail shows nothing at
all. Yet, way down under the evo/mail dir I can find the actual contents
that should be there.

"Warnings" are somewhat peculiar. I get no errors at all during startup.
But ever since I upgraded (with red-carpet the other day), various
components of evo have been crashing left and right. There seems to be
no rhyme or reason in how and when things crash - just this morning
while updating a contact, it crashed. Yesterday composing a reply, it
crashed. Sometimes the component dies, other times the entire app dies.

This is very onerous - I've got semesters worth of email from students
that I need to get access to.

Thanks for your reply.

Sean


On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 20:21, Not Zed wrote:
I presume you mean under the folder tree?

All i can think of is that the 'folder-metadata.xml' files in each
directory are somehow emptied or broken.

Any warnings when you start it from a terminal?


They should contain something like this (for each folder):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<efolder>
 <type>mail</type
 <description>Some description</description>
</efolder>

(at least, for mail folders)

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 02:06, Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:
I just upgraded to evo 1.4 via red-carpet and *all* of my filed mail
disappeared. Drilling down into the evolution/mail directory I see
that
it's all still there, but I can't see it in the folders in evo. What
happened?

  Sean


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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] What's the minimum hardware requirement of
Evolution on linux?
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <Calvin Liu Sun COM>
Cc: evolution ximian com
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:48:50 -0400

I've run it on as little as a celeron 400 w/ 128 megs of ram (a gig or
so of mail). (used to develop on that box until it died and I replaced
it with my current athlon box)

I'd say that the more mail/data that you expect evolution to manage, the
higher the hardware requirements will be.

Jeff

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 22:52, Yu-Hui Calvin Liu wrote:
I can't find such info anywhere.
Thanks.
Calvin

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Message: 12
Subject: Re: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <mlist bogusville us>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 07 Jul 2003 16:09:20 +0930

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 13:43, Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:
Yup, under the folder tree I see the folders themselves, but opening one
of them known to have (or supposed to have) filed mail shows nothing at
all. Yet, way down under the evo/mail dir I can find the actual contents
that should be there.

It should be under ~/evolution/local/

The ~/evolution/mail directory is used for various meta-data purposes.

"Warnings" are somewhat peculiar. I get no errors at all during startup.
But ever since I upgraded (with red-carpet the other day), various
components of evo have been crashing left and right. There seems to be
no rhyme or reason in how and when things crash - just this morning
while updating a contact, it crashed. Yesterday composing a reply, it
crashed. Sometimes the component dies, other times the entire app dies.

You have to run it in a terminal to see the warnings?

This is very onerous - I've got semesters worth of email from students
that I need to get access to.

It would be very very unlikely that the mail has been physically lost.


Also, if you have important data, you should always back it up (you
never know when a hdd will die, for example).




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Message: 13
From: Sean Russell <Sean elk-rapids com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 07 Jul 2003 09:29:24 -0400
Subject: [Evolution] Unable to open addressbook

Hello,

I keep getting this error when I try to access the contacts folder.
Tasks and Calendar also give the same errors. I have tried everything I
have been able to find, downgraded to a recommended build of DB3,
tried installing from the Ximian installer nothing has resolved the
issue. I am currently reinstalled by the evolution RPM for redhat
rawhide. Any help available would be greatly appreciated.


OS: Redhat-rawhide
        db3-3.1.17-7
        evolution-1.4.0-2



My local folders contain the following

local/Contacts
        create-initial          -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadata.xml     -rw-r--r--
/local/Calendar
        calendar.ics            -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadata.xml     -rw-r--r--
/local/Tasks
        tasks.ics               -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadate.xml     -rw-r--r--


Sean Russell



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Message: 14
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unable to open addressbook
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Sean Russell <Sean elk-rapids com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 07 Jul 2003 17:27:30 +0200


I keep getting this error when I try to access the contacts folder.
Tasks and Calendar also give the same errors. I have tried everything I
have been able to find, downgraded to a recommended build of DB3,
tried installing from the Ximian installer nothing has resolved the
issue. I am currently reinstalled by the evolution RPM for redhat
rawhide. Any help available would be greatly appreciated.


OS: Redhat-rawhide
        db3-3.1.17-7

Don't know which db3 version is required, but it seems I have 3.3.11
installed (shipped with Mandrake 9.1):

$ rpm -qa | grep db3
libdb3.3-3.3.11-13mdk


My local folders contain the following

local/Contacts
        create-initial          -rw-r--r--
        folder-metadata.xml     -rw-r--r--

Well, there is the Contacts database missing. There should be a file
addressbook.db in this directory.

As (if) there is really no such file, you cannot loose anything. You
could try removing the Contacts and recreating it (both using
Evolution). You will have to set them in the Settings as autocompletion
source again.


What does your folder-metadata.xml files contain, do they look sane?

$ cat evolution/local/Contacts/folder-metadata.xml
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<efolder>
        <type>contacts</type>
        <description>Contacts</description>
</efolder>


...guenther


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c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
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Message: 15
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unable to open addressbook
From: Frederic Crozat <fcrozat mandrakesoft com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Mandrakesoft
Date: 07 Jul 2003 17:30:47 +0200

Le lun 07/07/2003 à 17:27, guenther a écrit :
I keep getting this error when I try to access the contacts folder.
Tasks and Calendar also give the same errors. I have tried everything
I
have been able to find, downgraded to a recommended build of DB3,
tried installing from the Ximian installer nothing has resolved the
issue. I am currently reinstalled by the evolution RPM for redhat
rawhide. Any help available would be greatly appreciated.


OS: Redhat-rawhide
        db3-3.1.17-7

Don't know which db3 version is required, but it seems I have 3.3.11
installed (shipped with Mandrake 9.1):

$ rpm -qa | grep db3
libdb3.3-3.3.11-13mdk

Mdk evolution package has its own db3 3.1.17, compiled from source and
built statically..

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