Re: [Evolution] imap: evolution and eudora; moving files to trash folder

["Mark E. Walter" <walter 80 osu edu>]

Thanks for the replies.  I understand what Eudora is doing now.  I 
didn't try too hard, but there was no apparent way to change Eudora's 
response. What I have decided is to use the Netscape 7.0 mail client on 
my laptop.  It seems to do things the way evolution does and does not 
show mail that I have deleted in evolution.  Netscape has the added 
advantage of putting outgoing mail in an imap folder of my choosing 
(Eudora requires a filter for this ... doesn't include attachments, and 
doesn't list by recipient), and it also does a move to (imap) trash on 
delete.

With regards to moving mail to trash, I am now spoiled by being able to 
access mail that I have purposely or accidentally deleted, so I don't 
want to empty the trash.  In addition, I want to be able to access my 
trash from anywhere ... hence the struggles with imap.  I am 
conditioning myself not to hit the delete key but rather to move the 
message manually to my (imap) trash folder.  Maybe there is a way to do 
this in 1 or 2 keystrokes ... or to remap the delete key ...

Thanks again for the responses.

> The issue is that IMAP doesn't have a "move" command, so what Eudora is
> doing is copying the message to your trash folder, marking it deleted in
> the inbox, and then expunging all deleted messages from inbox. This is
> why deleting any message from within Eudora will delete all of your
> Evolution-deleted messages.
>
> Evolution does things the way that it does because it's faster for the
> user, because expunging the folder is potentially a very slow operation,
> and.
>
> There's currently no way to make Evolution do things Eudora's way. There
> is a bug somewhere in bugzilla suggesting this though. You might instead
> want to see if Eudora has on option to do things Evo's way.
>
> -- Dan
>  
>
> On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 13:36, Mark E. Walter wrote:
>  
>
> > Hi, I looked for this information on-line, but did not find anything. 
> > Sorry if it is a faq.  
> >
> > I just set-up IMAP so that I can use evolution at work and eudora on my
> > laptop (or any other mail client for that matter).  
> >
> > 1. if I delete a message in evolution, it just gets a line through it
> > and it stays in my INBOX ... it is well known that this is how evolution
> > handles deleted messages.  I can use "View" "Hide Deleted Messages" so
> > that I don't see the deleted messages.  However, when I fire up eudora,
> > I will see the deleted message.  In eudora the 'server status' flag
> > indicates that the message is flagged for deletion.  This will leave me
> > with an exceptionally cluttered view of my INBOX in eudora.  This seems
> > like a good reason for having a deleted e-mail in evolution get moved to
> > a different imap (trash) folder.  Does this exist?  From what I read,
> > there was a conscious decision in evolution not to move deleted messages
> > to other folders.  
> >
> > 2. From eudora I can move deleted messages to my imap trash folder. 
> > However, a different problem arises.  For e-mail that I deleted in
> > evolution (i.e., still exists in my evolution INBOX, but with a line
> > through it *and* still exists in my Eudora view of INBOX with a 'server
> > status' of delete), if I delete any eudora other eudora INBOX messages,
> > the evolution deleted (flagged for deletion) e-mail disappears forever. 
> > I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.  I could live with evolution
> > not moving deleted e-mail if, when I use eudora, *all* messages flagged
> > for deletion would get moved to the trash folder.  
> >
> > Sorry if this is confusing.  The long and short of this is that it seems
> > like it would be nice if there was a way (perhaps a trick with vfolders
> > or filters?) to move email that is deleted from an evolution imap folder
> > into an imap trash folder.  
> >
> > thanks, 
> > mark
> >
> >
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