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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: All-day appointments reminder (Ted Anderson)
   2. Re: mbox file (Sean M. Alderman)
   3. Meeting Request automatically add to calendar? (Jason Frisvold)
   4. Re: Meeting Request automatically add to calendar? (Chris Boyce)
   5. Re: mbox file (Mark Gordon)
   6. Re: mbox file (Jeffrey Stedfast)
   7. Re: Line wrap for replies (Lloyd D Budd)
   8. Re: Line wrap for replies (guenther)
   9. Re: Meeting Request automatically add to calendar? (Jason Frisvold)
  10. Re: Meeting Request automatically add to calendar? (Mark Gordon)
  11. Re: Meeting Request automatically add to calendar? (Jason Frisvold)

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Message: 1
From: "Ted Anderson" <tja pobox com>
Reply-To: tja pobox com
To: danw ximian com
Cc: evolution lists ximian com, tja pobox com, rodrigo ximian com
Subject: Re: [Evolution] All-day appointments reminder
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:32:25 GMT

Nope, just straight 1.4.4 via Red Carpet on Mandrake 9.1. I'm on the road t=
his week and won't be able to file a bug, but I'll do it when I get home.

Ted

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 05:55, Ted Anderson wrote:
It's configured to Europe/Madrid in the Evo settings, and Madrid in the
system clock settings. All other appointments work fine and all-day
appointments show up as all day (not 0200-0200) in the calendar. It's
only the alarm that bumps them up 2 hours. Since that's exactly the
offset from GMT, I'm guessing it is a TZ issue as well, but one that
only affects the alarm component and then only for the all-day events.
=20
Are you using Connector? Exchange represents all-day events in a
slightly broken way which we have to translate to/from, so maybe we're
not doing it correctly for alarms...
=20

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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [Evolution] mbox file
From: "Sean M. Alderman" <sean m alderman grc nasa gov>
To: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
Cc: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>, Not Zed <notzed ximian com>,
      Dennis Tuchler <dtuchler earthlink net>,
      listserv XimEvolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization: 
Date: 12 Aug 2003 10:16:56 -0400

I think this would be a great feature to add, if possible.  Perhaps a
way to mark a folder as an archive folder so that the mail inside would
be stored in a compressed format that would be readable (granted slow)
by evolution.

I typically break my inbox and sent folders up in 6 month intervals for
historical purposes.  I do find myself searching them about once a month
on average.  As it stands, I've got about 650MB of email in my
~/evolution/local directory.  Having the option to compress the stuff I
don't use very often but would like to keep handy would be nice.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:49, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
I think you must be thinking of "Compact Folders" which is terminology
used by Mozilla and Outlook. The equivalent in Evolution is called
Expunge.

Jeff

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:35, Mark Gordon wrote:
I seem to recall that mozilla mail (or was it some other mailer I used a
long time ago?) had an option to "compress mailbox", and that it was
necessary to do so in order to free up disk space after "deleting"
messages.  If that's what you have in mind, Dennis, Evolution does
deletion differently, and compressing the mailbox after deleting mail is
unnecessary.

If you want to use compress, gzip, bzip2, etc. on the mbox file in order
to save space, as Not Zed says, Evolution won't be able to read it. 
Probably only really useful for archival purposes.

-Mark Gordon

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:33, Not Zed wrote:
gzip -9 mbox

but evolution wont read it.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 12:53, Dennis Tuchler wrote:
How do you compress the mbox file?

Thanks


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Message: 3
From: Jason Frisvold <friz corp ptd net>
To: Evolution Mailing List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:50:44 -0400
Subject: [Evolution] Meeting Request automatically add to calendar?


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I sent this message about a week ago and didn't get a response.  I'm
wondering if there wasn't enough information in my initial message?

At any rate.. this is the one and only re-post..  :)

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Jason Frisvold <friz corp ptd net>
To: Evolution Mailing List <evolution lists ximian com>
Subject: [Evolution] Meeting Request automatically add to calendar?
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:39:46 -0400

Hi all,

      I'm wondering if this is a bug or a feature...  I'm running Evo 1.4.4
and Connector 1.4.4....

      Whenever I receive a meeting request, it seems that if I view the
request, it automatically adds itself to my calendar..  Even though I
have yet to accept/decline it...

      It does show me in an unknown state in the calendar entry, but...  Why
is it adding to my calendar automatically?


      Also.. on a related note....  Is there a known crash bug when viewing
calendar requests?  If I click on a calendar request, view it,
accept/decline or simply not respond, and then click on another email,
Evo crashes..  This is pretty much reproducible on demand..

Thanks all!
--=20
---------------------------
Jason H. Frisvold
Backbone Engineering Supervisor
Penteledata Engineering
friz corp ptd net
RedHat Engineer - RHCE # 807302349405893
Cisco Certified - CCNA # CSCO10151622
MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910
---------------------------
"Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles
the world."
      -- Albert Einstein [1879-1955]

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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Meeting Request automatically add to calendar?
From: Chris Boyce <chris boyce berbee com>
To: Jason Frisvold <friz corp ptd net>
Cc: Evolution Mailing List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:22:24 -0500

I have also experienced a crashing problem when trying to delete a
meeting cancellation (of all things).  Because Evo does not (appear to)
automatically remove an Exchange meeting request/update/cancellation
after responding to it, I find myself having to clean them out of my
inbox regularly.

Chris


On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:50, Jason Frisvold wrote:
I sent this message about a week ago and didn't get a response.  I'm
wondering if there wasn't enough information in my initial message?

At any rate.. this is the one and only re-post..  :)

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Jason Frisvold <friz corp ptd net>
To: Evolution Mailing List <evolution lists ximian com>
Subject: [Evolution] Meeting Request automatically add to calendar?
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:39:46 -0400

Hi all,

    I'm wondering if this is a bug or a feature...  I'm running Evo 1.4.4
and Connector 1.4.4....

    Whenever I receive a meeting request, it seems that if I view the
request, it automatically adds itself to my calendar..  Even though I
have yet to accept/decline it...

    It does show me in an unknown state in the calendar entry, but...  Why
is it adding to my calendar automatically?


    Also.. on a related note....  Is there a known crash bug when viewing
calendar requests?  If I click on a calendar request, view it,
accept/decline or simply not respond, and then click on another email,
Evo crashes..  This is pretty much reproducible on demand..

Thanks all!
-- 
Chris Boyce


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] mbox file
From: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
To: "Sean M. Alderman" <sean m alderman grc nasa gov>
Cc: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>, Not Zed <notzed ximian com>,
      Dennis Tuchler <dtuchler earthlink net>,
      listserv XimEvolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization: Ximian, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:30:33 -0400

Sounds like a good idea for a wishlist bug.  I took a quick look and
couldn't find any such existing wishlist bug.

-Mark Gordon

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:16, Sean M. Alderman wrote:
I think this would be a great feature to add, if possible.  Perhaps a
way to mark a folder as an archive folder so that the mail inside would
be stored in a compressed format that would be readable (granted slow)
by evolution.

I typically break my inbox and sent folders up in 6 month intervals for
historical purposes.  I do find myself searching them about once a month
on average.  As it stands, I've got about 650MB of email in my
~/evolution/local directory.  Having the option to compress the stuff I
don't use very often but would like to keep handy would be nice.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:49, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
I think you must be thinking of "Compact Folders" which is terminology
used by Mozilla and Outlook. The equivalent in Evolution is called
Expunge.

Jeff

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:35, Mark Gordon wrote:
I seem to recall that mozilla mail (or was it some other mailer I used a
long time ago?) had an option to "compress mailbox", and that it was
necessary to do so in order to free up disk space after "deleting"
messages.  If that's what you have in mind, Dennis, Evolution does
deletion differently, and compressing the mailbox after deleting mail is
unnecessary.

If you want to use compress, gzip, bzip2, etc. on the mbox file in order
to save space, as Not Zed says, Evolution won't be able to read it. 
Probably only really useful for archival purposes.

-Mark Gordon

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:33, Not Zed wrote:
gzip -9 mbox

but evolution wont read it.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 12:53, Dennis Tuchler wrote:
How do you compress the mbox file?

Thanks


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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] mbox file
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
Cc: "Sean M. Alderman" <sean m alderman grc nasa gov>,
      Not Zed <notzed ximian com>, Dennis Tuchler <dtuchler earthlink net>,
      listserv XimEvolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Organization: Ximian, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:04:06 -0400

There is actually a feature request about this already. I don't recall
the bug # off the top of my head tho, but I do remember it being
discussed.

Jeff

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:30, Mark Gordon wrote:
Sounds like a good idea for a wishlist bug.  I took a quick look and
couldn't find any such existing wishlist bug.

-Mark Gordon

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:16, Sean M. Alderman wrote:
I think this would be a great feature to add, if possible.  Perhaps a
way to mark a folder as an archive folder so that the mail inside would
be stored in a compressed format that would be readable (granted slow)
by evolution.

I typically break my inbox and sent folders up in 6 month intervals for
historical purposes.  I do find myself searching them about once a month
on average.  As it stands, I've got about 650MB of email in my
~/evolution/local directory.  Having the option to compress the stuff I
don't use very often but would like to keep handy would be nice.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:49, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
I think you must be thinking of "Compact Folders" which is terminology
used by Mozilla and Outlook. The equivalent in Evolution is called
Expunge.

Jeff

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:35, Mark Gordon wrote:
I seem to recall that mozilla mail (or was it some other mailer I used a
long time ago?) had an option to "compress mailbox", and that it was
necessary to do so in order to free up disk space after "deleting"
messages.  If that's what you have in mind, Dennis, Evolution does
deletion differently, and compressing the mailbox after deleting mail is
unnecessary.

If you want to use compress, gzip, bzip2, etc. on the mbox file in order
to save space, as Not Zed says, Evolution won't be able to read it. 
Probably only really useful for archival purposes.

-Mark Gordon

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:33, Not Zed wrote:
gzip -9 mbox

but evolution wont read it.

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 12:53, Dennis Tuchler wrote:
How do you compress the mbox file?

Thanks
-- 
Jeffrey Stedfast
Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
fejj ximian com  - www.ximian.com


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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Line wrap for replies
From: Lloyd D Budd <lloyd foolswisdom com>
To: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: Thomas Frayne <tomf sjpc org>, evolution lists ximian com
Date: 12 Aug 2003 13:46:09 -0400

As always Guenther, fantastic reply!

I do believe that there is a subtle logic bug here -- it has lead to me
sending at least of few long lines ;-)  

Format appears to be defined on a line by line basis.  The most
desirable behavior is for when a line has been deleted (backspace) of
all characters, that the format automatically become "Normal".

Wat do u think evo-devel?  Guenther (I appreciate your opinion)?

Cheers,
Lloyd


On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 21:01, guenther wrote:
When I compose a new e-mail, the lines wrap at 72 characters, but, when
I compose a reply, line wrapping appears to be off:  I have to insert
new lines manually.

How can I force automatic line wrapping for replies?  How can I change
the automatic line width?

In the Composer, there is a dropdown menu right above the text pane for
the paragraph style -- likely showing 'Normal' or 'Preformat'.

'Normal' breaks at 72 chars, whereas 'Preformat' wont break your lines
unless you manually insert a linebreak.


Composing new mails defaults to 'Normal' to ensure your text will be
readable in 80 chars even when being quoted (multiple times). Replying
defaults to 'Preformat' for the quoted text (to prevent ugly
"Kammquoting" [1]) and 'Normal' for your text. Just hit enter and you
magically get a new paragraph with 'Normal' style.

You can change this own your own decision, mainly to insert long lines
without wrapping.

AFAIK there is no way to change the line width for being quoting save as
mentioned above -- this is common practice.

...guenther


[1]  Sorry, dunno the English phrase for this, but this German phrase
means "comb quoting", which describes it pretty good: Quoted blocks,
where long lines are wrapped and therefore breaking the cascaded quoting
chars. You have a hard time to see, who actually wrote which 


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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Line wrap for replies
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Lloyd D Budd <lloyd foolswisdom com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:23:00 +0200


As always Guenther, fantastic reply!

Thanks, Lloyd. :)


I do believe that there is a subtle logic bug here -- it has lead to me
sending at least of few long lines ;-)  

Format appears to be defined on a line by line basis.  The most
desirable behavior is for when a line has been deleted (backspace) of
all characters, that the format automatically become "Normal".

Oh, yeah. Never really noticed this. As a workaround: Additional
"Backspace, Enter" does the trick and is fast to type.


Wat do u think evo-devel?  Guenther (I appreciate your opinion)?

Yes, this may be a slight logic issue -- at least it is annoying
behavior. Feel free to file it in bugzilla.


IMHO there are far more urgent bugs in gtkhtml, like: Switching
signatures eats a newline. Signatures and quotes do not need to be spell
checked. Decreasing quoting-level of a quoted empty line is difficult
[1]. The height of of the To and Cc fields makes text dance...

...guenther


[1]  That is, reducing > > to a single > for example. Backspace, Ctrl-Z,
Backspace works... ;)





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