Re: [Evolution] Comments on Evolution 1.2

[Russell Stuart <rstuart lubemobile com au>]

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 11:18, Not Zed wrote:

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> Dont even know what this is.  But that doesn't sound like a showstopper.

No.  None of these things are.  Evolution 1.2 is very, very good.  IMHO
it is the first piece of open source office software that is on a par
with Microsoft's equivalent offering - better in some ways, in fact.  An
extraordinary achievement, considering the resources Microsoft has to
throw at the problem.

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> > - When reading mail the ',' and '.' rarely seem to work.  I have not
> >   been able to find a pattern as to when they do and don't.  Also,
> >   it would be nice if shortcuts like that appeared in the menu.  It
> >   means you can learn about their existence without reading the help.
> >   That is a seems to be an attribute of Microsoft products - you can
> >   use them without referring to the help by just using the hints the
> >   GUI gives you.
>
> They were changed to [ and ].  They do show up in the menu as a
> shortcut.

I read about ',' and '.' on this list.  I went looking but could not
find the message again - but I found other references to them.  It turns
out I was confused - I thought ',' and '.' moved between all messages,
whereas they actually move between unread messages - and they work
exactly as the author intended.  According to CVS ',' and '.' were added
2002-09-03.  The documentation is wrong about this - it says N & P move
between messages - they don't.

I tried to attach the key bindings *Alt*Left and *Alt*Right to moving
between all messages (as opposed to just unread ones).  They are the
bindings Outlook uses.  It sort of works - you have to press them
twice, and they aren't displayed in the menu.

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> > - Read receipts (aka Disposition Notifications).  Obviously you guys
> >   don't consider them important, this being the second major release
> >   and they are still not there.  I do - enough to spend a pleasant
> >   hour or so going through the source finding a way to turn them on
> >   permanently.  I suspect a lot of others in corporate environments
> >   like mine place the same importance on them I do.  Its not like its
> >   hard.
>
> There is no standard for implementing this.  It wouldn't be much use
> adding it if most mailers dont support it and subseqeuntly it doesn't
> work for most users.

Re: No standard.  That is wrong.  RFC 2298 is devoted to describing
these things should work.  Outlook & Outlook Express, the products
Evolution is trying to replace, do support it.  Other modern email
clients such as kmail and mozilla also support it.  So I suspect your
concern about  "most mailers dont support it" is unfounded, particularly
as it is not meant to be a reliable mechanism in any case.

However, I see that this topic has already been discussed here:
"http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2001-November/014443.html";. It seems its the usual problem 
of too little time and too much to do - they would accept a patch if it was done properly.  Fair enough.

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