[Evolution] Re: Newsgroups as a groupware feature

[Not Zed <notzed ximian com>]

On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:31, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> On a related issue, whatever happened to the embryonic NNTP support that once
> crept into Evolution?  Will that be further developped?  

It got rewritten, but is still disabled by default since we dont want to
have to support it yet.  It mostly works, for reading only, and is
relatively reliable etc.

> I could use NNTP for Usenet and, most of all, as yet another groupware feature
> integrated with other Evolution modules.  
>
> One interresting level of integration would be for the Summary section, where
> the subject line of e.g. the last 10 posts from selected newsgroups appear in
> the main summary frame, along with RDF collections and weather reports.  This
> would be usefull for getting the general idea of what's happening on any given
> day on e.g. company.productname.sales internal discussion list, without having
> to click on an eventual Newsgroups icon among the Shortcuts panel.

Yeah, that sounds pretty cool.

> Obviously, actual NNTP support (beyond the above Summary agregation idea) is
> also a welcome idea and would allow me to finaly uninstall Pan. 
>
> The way I would like NNTP to be implemented is, as just another folder category
> (i.e. Local Folders, Other Contacts, etc.) whose name is that of the newssource
> e.g. news.domain.tld and containing each subscribed newsgroup as a subfolder. I

Yeah thats more or less how its working at the moment (if compiled in):

[-] news.mozilla.org
  + netscape.dev (81)
  + netscape.dev.client-source-code (6)

 etc etc.

Probably make it optional to have a tree or just a list of categories
like that, its not hard to do.

> haven't used Outlook in ages, but AFAIR that's more or less how it's implemented
> there also and this makes a lot of sense to me as, generally speaking, I quite
> often find myself forwarding an interresting newspost to someone via e-mail or,
> vice-versa, bringing a e-mailed matter of general interest to newsgroups. While
> the NNTP and SMTP protocols are different, in practice, they are both used for
> discussing and are both viewed as (optionaly threaded) message folders and, thus
> pretty much go hand in hand, IMHO.


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>
> On 22 May 2002, Not Zed wrote:
> > But NNTP isn't usenet, its just used by it. Various groupware servers use
> > nntp or something like it for 'group discussions' still.
>
> > On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 23:06, Jim Meyer wrote:
> > > There's always been a fine line between NNTP/newsgroups and SMTP/mailing
> > > lists, hasn't there?