RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox

[John Sturgeon <john sturgeon senareider com>]

Matthew.

Perhaps you're confusing MAPI with IMAP.  They are two different
protocols.

There are two concepts here:
1) server storage of content
Exchange servers can store mail folders and calendar/tasks/contact
folders.
IMAP servers can store mail folders and that is all.

2) client capabilities to view that content.

in order to view Exchange folders you must have an exchange (or other
MAPI capable) client.  The only ones I know of are made by Microsoft,
they are:
Exchange Client
Outlook
OWC (Outlook Web Client)
I think Lotus Notes can talk MAPI, but I'm not sure.

in order to view IMAP folders (e-mail only) there are several IMAP
clients available on all platforms, some examples:
Outlook
Evolution
Netscape Mail
Outlook Express
Balsa
... and a multitude of others.

Bottom line.

Evolution is not an exchange client, and therefore cannot be used to
replace an Exchange client.  If, however, you are using Outlook as your
PIM/e-mail client, then Evolution can easily replace Outlook for those
purposes.

I hope that all makes sense.

-john <><

On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:58, Matthew Western wrote:
    <sigh>  before you say this, you have used Outlook2000 connected to an
    Exchange server?  and your thinking like us that Microsoft is charging too
    much for software?  and you like use have a worldwide network of exchange
    servers (like about 60) and thus is difficult to change them all at one go?
    <deeper sigh>  and obviously you would be using POP for your exchange
    servers.  you would have shared calenders on the exchange server?  you would
    know what your talking about before you say IMAP has no business being
    stored in an IMAP folder?   i rest my case.....
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:24 AM
    To: mwestern affairs net au
    Cc: evolution ximian com
    Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
    
    
    Contact and Calendar data has no business being stored in an IMAP
    folder, IMAP is for mail.
    
    Moving contact and calendar data to the local addressbook/calendar has
    nothing to do with POP.
    
    Jeff
    
    On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:50, Matthew Western wrote:
    > Local Folders - Inbox = Mail Messages
    > Local Folders - Sent Items = Mail Messages
    > Local Foldres - Calendar = Calendar View
    > Local Folders - COntact = Contacts View
    > All Above = Very Good
    >
    > IMAP Folders - Inbox = Mail messages
    > IMAP Folders - Sent Items = Mail messages
    > IMAP Folders - Calendar = Mail Messages
    > IMAP Folders - Contacts = Mail Messages
    > Sad.
    >
    > In Outlook2k, i say this folder is a Calendar folder and voila, it looks
    > like a Calendar.
    > In Evolution, i don't know how/don't know if i can/am wondering if it's on
    > the todo list for developers....
    >
    > Hope this explains...
    >
    > Do I want to drag and drop to my local folders?  no i do not. that would
    > defeat the purpose of having my IMAP mail on the server, i may as well use
    > POP.
    >
    > Matthew
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:44 AM
    > To: mwestern affairs net au
    > Cc: evolution ximian com
    > Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
    >
    >
    > What do you mean?
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    > On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote:
    > > Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders?  i have IMAP
    > > subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely.  I got Calendar/Contact
    > but
    > > can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense...  it
    defaults
    > to
    > > mail folders...
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: evolution-admin ximian com [mailto:evolution-admin ximian com]On
    > > Behalf Of NotZed
    > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM
    > > To: Jeffrey Stedfast
    > > Cc: Steve Arnold; evolution ximian com
    > > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap
    > > account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox
    > > or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox
    > > if nothing matches).
    > >
    > > IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server.
    > >
    > > Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what
    > > you should be doing if you want to use IMAP.
    > >
    > > >
    > > > The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that
    I
    > > > thought...
    > > >
    > > > It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to
    > > > delete shortcuts from and add new ones to...
    > > >
    > > > Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox,
    > > > tada!
    > > >
    > > > Jeff
    > > >
    > > > On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote:
    > > > > Jeffrey Stedfast writes:
    > > > >
    > > > > > I'm not sure what you are asking...?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless
    > you
    > > > > > setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your
    > > IMAP
    > > > > > Inbox.
    > > > >
    > > > > Allow me to explain :)
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux.  Pegasus mail
    > > (and my
    > > > > huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there.  I
    just
    > > setup
    > > > > the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail
    > > routing
    > > > > through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was).  I played with
    > > netscape
    > > > > and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server,
    created
    > > some
    > > > > mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely).  When
    I
    > > first
    > > > > fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own
    local
    > > inbox
    > > > > (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side).  In
    the
    > > folder
    > > > > list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary
    > folders,
    > > and
    > > > > the folders for my main IMAP account on the server.
    > > > >
    > > > > Questions:
    > > > >
    > > > > I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even
    > see
    > > the
    > > > > default folders.  How do I do that?
    > > > >
    > > > > If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my
    > > IMAP
    > > > > inbox?
    > > > >
    > > > > I hope that makes at least a little sense :-)
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks in advance, Steve
    > > > >
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