Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] CALL FOR SPONSORSHIP: The Open Group Ware Project

[Sander Vesik <Sander Vesik ireland sun com>]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Dan Kuykendall wrote:

> > Yes - when I first looked into this subject I found about 20 groupware
> > projects in sourceforge, and not many of them had gotten anywhere.  I
> > think it would be useful to contact those people and ask them for input,
> > get a feel for what they had in mind, and pick over the bones of the
> > dead projects for useful ideas.  Some may be interested in participating
> > actively if there is some indication that this is a serious project
> > witha multi-developer following.
>
> Yes, most are all dead because they couldnt build a solid foundation to
> work from. Running the phpGroupWare project, along with being a
> GroupWise and then Exchange and now Notes admin has taught me a
> considerable amount about groupware systems. I feel like I can build a
> design with the help of a few others with experience writing and
> maintaing groupware systems. With this small group we can get something
> done faster and then can open up for public discussion/critisism.

Also, there are several very real projects the OGS project can draw upon
(phpGroupWare among others) which is considerably more for a start than
a good deal of SourceForge projects have ever had...

> > I'm all for getting gung-ho and putting fingertips to the keyboard, but
> > it's wasted effort if you don't have a coherent concept.  I'm not
> > advocating committee paralysis, just some simple discussion over what
> > will / will not be addressed in the project and setting some priorities.
>
> I agree we need the concepts first, and I fully plan to work that way.
> but I dont plan to have every tiny function decided before I start
> hacking.

It was also one of the reasons I came up with the level 2s and 3s - we
need to priotise things we want to achieve, otherwise it will forever be
'work in progress'. Having something that does what people want in
areasonable timeframe is very important.

> Seek3r

        Sander

One day a tortoise will learn to fly
        -- Terry Pratchett, 'Small Gods'