Re: [Evolution] Re: [Galeon-user] Regular total lockups with 1.0.1 (and earlier)
- From: Luis Villa <louie ximian com>
- To: "Jason A. Pfeil" <pfeil TheAIMSGroup com>
- Cc: Rick Ziegler <zieglerr certco com>, Victor Putz <vputz nyx net>, galeon-user lists sourceforge net, Evolution List <evolution ximian com>, rziegler sover net
- Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: [Galeon-user] Regular total lockups with 1.0.1 (and earlier)
- Date: 20 Dec 2001 15:11:29 -0500
2.4.16 (as compiled by red hat in rawhide) had a lot of issues for me,
so I fell back. I'd have assumed it was VM (may still be) but like I
said I've seen it in situations where basically nothing other than
system daemons and bash were running, so basically no swapping was
taking place.
To clarify: I like RH a lot... I'm certainly not trying to blame them.
If it was that irritating, I would have switched back to 7.1 or to
Debian. I'm just describing the situation as I see it and trying to
defend Ximian against what I see as completely groundless accusations.
Luis
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 15:06, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
How long have you left it "locked up" before hard rebooting or pulling
the plug on it? The reason I ask is that in kernel versions prior to
2.4.10, the VM system was occasionally known to jump into situations
where it was swapping madly and nothing else would be able to happen
for quite a long time. I would suggest downloading and compiling the
2.4.16 kernel (the latest stable release) and then see if that fixes the
problem.
Cheers!
--Jason
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:35, Luis Villa wrote:
Completely stock 7.2 + Ximian GNOME + RH updates. Kernel is
kernel-2.4.9-13, again from RH. Has locked up at least once a day I
bought the machine and installed 7.2.
Luis
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:35, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
Please provide additional information about your setups. Kernel version
(is it stock RH72?), any additional configs/packages you have installed
besides Ximian GNOME and the stock RH72 system.
Thanks!
--Jason
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:17, Luis Villa wrote:
I'm inclined to blame it on RH 7.2 itself; I've seen the same random
lockups all the time since I installed RH 7.2, and that sadly includes
times I'm sitting on console in bash with no X running. Literally doing
nothing but trying to tab-complete. So... I've got no clue, but because
I've seen it happen more than a couple time while on console without X
running, I really can't blame it on gnome or any packages thereof.
Luis
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:16, Rick Ziegler wrote:
My father also experiences frequent lockups with RH 7.2, though he isn't
always using Galeon at the time.
Another RH 7.2 user blamed the same lockup on Evolution on the evolution
mailing list within the last week or two.
I'm inclined to believe there is something screwy with RH 7.2 and (all
of) your hardware configuration(s), or maybe the Ximian packages on
which Galeon and Evolution are built. (Provided you are using Ximian
gnome).
Perhaps more detailed system information could help track this problem
down.
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:00, Victor Putz wrote:
First: I absolutely love Galeon; I had been wanting a "minimal browser"
for years, and have been so pleased with Galeon that I haven't used
anything else sense insalling it.
Second: I like it so much that I am still using it even though it is the
ONLY application I have ever found which will bring my Linux system to its
knees and require a reboot.
...and that's not so good.
Quite regularly, when browsing with Galeon, my system will simply freeze
and become completely unresponsive; no mouse movement, no keyboard motion.
It will ignore attempts to switch to different TTY console windows, will
shrug aside control-alt-delete, and even disregards attempts to telnet
from my wife's computer in the next room (even with X and the console
completely frozen, I've almost always been able to telnet in from next
door and shut down properly).
The only thing which recovers the system is the hardware reset button or a
power-down. Luckily I'm running RH7.2 with ext3fs, so a reboot isn't very
traumatic, but it disturbs me quite a bit.
Any ideas on what the problem could be? I'm using the Galeon 1.0.1 rpm
for RHL, the mozilla 0.9.6 packages, and the prebuilt 2.4.9-13 kernel rpm.
The system is quite solid otherwise and I can leave it running for days
until I surf the web. Galeon options have Java/Flash off, Javascript
disabled, popups off.
Poor testing here, though--I have not spent much time trying to surf with
Mozilla only to see if the problem lays there.
Any help would be, well... helpful.
-->VPutz
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