RE: [Evolution] options on download

[Gregory Leblanc <GLeblanc cu-portland edu>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj helixcode com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:22 PM
> To: Gregory Leblanc; evolution helixcode com
> Subject: RE: [Evolution] options on download
>
> uhm...
>
> [comments below]
>
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Gregory Leblanc wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:01:50 -0700 
> > To: evolution helixcode com
> > From: Gregory Leblanc <GLeblanc cu-portland edu>
> > Subject: RE: [Evolution] options on download
> >
> > ok, the simplest way, in this case, is not the right way.  
> The message
> > headers and bodies should be downloaded first, regardless 
> of anything
> > else.
> > Any binary attachments should be downloaded after all of 
> the header and
> > plain-text mime portions are downloaded.  That way, I can 
> read ALL of my
> > mail, from oldest to newest, and not have the silly 
> scheduling problem
> > that
> > you mentioned above.  
>
> do you even have the foggiest idea how POP works?

As a matter of fact, NO, I don't.  I just LIVE in my mail client, and
occasionally have to use it over a slow dialup line.

> This is 
> possible to do in
> IMAP, but not POP
> in POP, you either download the header (completely useless if 
> you want to
> read an email) or you download the entire message, there is no way to
> download ONLY the text section of the message, this just isn't doable
>
> the only (efficient/practical) way to do it would be the 
> method I described
> before

For POP.  Why does the implementation need to be the same for all providers?
That implementation makes it totally pointless to have, so I agree that
nobody should bother.  

> > > no need to grab a header and no need to check for mime attachments
> >
> > Without doing those, you don't know how to download things, 
> and get into
> > scheduling messes.  
>
> scheduling messes? HUH!?!?

Yeah, where you download the mail in order of size, that's stupid.  That's
sheduling, because you're not downloading by date.   Don't look at it for
POP if it can't be done there, but why not do it for IMAP, where it's
actually possible?  

> > > if anyone feels up to patching 
> > > /evolution/camel/providers/pop3, feel free
> > > but I don't think anyone here has any intent on implementing 
> > > that feature
> >
> > No, not going to volunteer personally, nobody likes Pascal.  8^)
>
> I dunno, I thought Pascal was kinda neat back in 11th grade :-)
> Then I found C...but that's beside the point

Funny thing, that's when I gave up programming.  :-)
        Greg