Re: [Evolution-hackers] PIM application suite

[Tristan O'Tierney <totierney yahoo com>]

i envision splitting it up into apps that are well
defined
an addressbook, mail app, and calendar app.

> they basically *are* separate applications already,
> except they get
> embedded into a single window.
evolution doesn't already do this, as is evident by
the fact that it has all these components integrated
into one app.  that's great that they are basically
separate applications. that means the work involved in
splitting them up into separate windows and binaries
is even easier.

> evolution doesn't force you to do that, so I don't
> quite follow.
then how do i only manage my contacts without opening
up the evolution mail app and switching to the
contacts pane?

> >   it makes managing
> > names-->mediums 10 times simpler.  i hope some day
> > gaim works with such a standarized addressbook.  i
> > know evolution 2.0 is supposed to make a server
> for
> > all these activities, but that isn't a replacement
> for
> > what i suggest.
> 
> 
> why not?
because the data server only lets you integrate easily
with the evolution suite, not manage the various
components of the suite individually.

--- Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 15:41 -0700, Tristan O'Tierney
> wrote:
> 
> > is there any plan to split evolution up into
> separate
> > entities that manage calendars, contacts, and
> email
> > individually?  i use a mac every day, so the
> > difference between the ical/mail/addressbook combo
> is
> > quite apparent when compared to do-everything mail
> > clients like evolution and outlook.  i think, in
> > striving to do everything, they do everything
> poorly. 
> 
> 
> so... how do you envision splitting evolution up
> into multiple
> components making it better? I don't see it...
> 
> will magic fairy dust come into play? :-)
> 
> 
> > making one application have too much functionality
> > also decreases it's usability (which thankfully
> gnome
> > cherishes unlike KDE), however in this case even
> KDE
> > got it right.  they too use separate applications.
>  so
> > i suppose i'm asking for a petition of some sort
> to
> > split the evolution application in to a suite of
> > well-integrated programs that work together and do
> > each individual task well
> 
> 
> wait. you mean, you want it to do exactly what it
> already does? :-)
> 
> they basically *are* separate applications already,
> except they get
> embedded into a single window.
> 
> they are just applications that happen to be shared
> libraries that get
> dynamically loaded by the shell application rather
> than separate ELF
> executables.
> 
> 
> >  rather than all tasks in a
> > cluttered interface.  because quite frankely, i
> never
> > go to my email program to add people to my address
> > book, nor do i go to my calendar program to check
> my
> > email.
> 
> 
> evolution doesn't force you to do that, so I don't
> quite follow.
> 
> 
> >   the benefit of having an official gnome
> > addressbook app would be a great benefit anyways. 
> the
> > way mac os x utilizes the addressbook for aim
> names in
> > ichat is simply wonderful.
> 
> 
> evolution 1.5 already does that
> 
> 
> >   it makes managing
> > names-->mediums 10 times simpler.  i hope some day
> > gaim works with such a standarized addressbook.  i
> > know evolution 2.0 is supposed to make a server
> for
> > all these activities, but that isn't a replacement
> for
> > what i suggest.
> 
> 
> why not?
> 
> Jeff
> 


	
		
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