Christian Rose writes: >> In short, a set of default bookmarks exposes all possible problems with >> localization, far beyond just translating titles. Because of all these >> difficulties, I'd say just include the absolute minimum set of bookmarks >> possible, and let distributors etc. worry about the localization issues >> if they want to alter or add bookmarks to the set. :-) > > To further expand on this issue, the reason I say the above is both that > it saves us work, that distributors usually modify the set of bookmarks > anyway, and that distributors often have a better grasp of what users > and markets they target, and hence what bookmarks may be suitable and > what localization is needed to suit their users. I agree that it's difficult for us to compile a sensible set of default bookmarks that would work for everyone. However, I do think that Epiphany needs to default to a workable set of bookmark keywords to get the user started. This would be true for any browser, but it is particularly so for Epiphany, due to its different style of bookmark management. There are practically no users who already know how to effectively manage bookmarks in the Epiphany style, but it can be made much easier by providing a framework for them. Fortunately, there is a pretty nice solution to the problem: provide the dmoz.org main categories as default keywords in new Epiphany installations. Almost all sites can easily be dropped to one or more of these categories, so the confusion of a beginner user trying to add bookmarks and creating less than optimal categories for them is greatly reduced. As an added bonus, dmoz.org has localizations for those categories to dozens of languages. The entire hierarchy is available as an rdf (warning, it's very large) at http://rdf.dmoz.org/rdf/structure.rdf.u8.gz, and could be parsed automatically to an Epiphany bookmark keywords file along with the localised names, if the Epiphany format supported that. The top categories can also be seen (in English only) in a shorter rdf: http://rdf.dmoz.org/rdf/structure.example.txt For those unfamiliar with dmoz.org, it is a volunteer based open web directory in the style of Yahoo. It's also the backbone for Google's directory service. Adding actual bookmarks as well would be optional - the defaults could include a few of the top sites in all categories, or not. Now, what would be REALLY cool is if Epiphany would, when adding a bookmark, look up that URL in the dmoz directory and automatically select the correct keyword(s) for it. -- Osma Ahvenlampi <oa@iki.fi>
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