[Epiphany] Re: Epiphany 0.8

["Eugenia Loli-Queru" <eloli hotmail com>]

> When you are editting toolbar you can only have one of each type of object
> in your toolbars, so you have to dnd the addressbar from toolbar b to
> toolbar a. make sense? are we answering your question? I find it
interesting
> that people are having problems witht that I wonder why. Needs
> investigation.

It is because the user needs to do extra work. The _user_ has to DnD away a
widget, and only then that widget will be availabe in the toolbar editing
window to move it elsewhere. This is just not right (if I am understanding
it correctly).
MacOSX does it better: all widgets are available at all times. Yes, you can
even duplicate icons on your toolbar, but I doubt this would be a problem.
At least it won't have the discoverability issue that there is today.
I am a very experienced user (used more than 20 OSes so far) and still
couldn't find how to move the URL bar next to the icon toolbar, there is
definately something wrong there.

> Well I would change this a bit. Trsditionally task switching actions are
at
> the bottom of the screen (windows task bar, mac os dock) so putting the
tabs
> at the bottom of the window makes sense to me.

Erm... no. Tabs are always on the top of the windows, not in the bottom. So,
having tabs showing at the bottom of the window make it inconsistent with
the tab behaviour on other application windows, and require the user to move
his mouse up and down all the time. It is not just not apparent in the
user's mind how to quickly switch web sites because he will have to think
and move his head down to carefully think what to click because the tabs are
not anymore continuous part of the navigation on the upper side of the
window.

Apple even took away the Starus bar (you have to enable it manually) from
Safari, centralizing the usage of the application in  the upper level and
not spliting the actions all around the place.
BTW, I have a 12" Powerbook and because it is only 1024x768, I have the Dock
on the right side, not on the bottom, maximizing this way the vertical real
screen estate (documents are generally long, not wide --keep that in mind it
is important on UI designs ;).

thanks,
Eugenia