[Epiphany] Re: Epiphany 0.8

["David Adam Bordoley" <bordoley msu edu>]

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Eugenia Loli-Queru writes: 

> Hi, 
> 
>> The option hasn't gone anywhere (I use a compact layout too). The XML
>> format of the toolbar description file has changed, so all settings are
>> gone, you need to rearrange the toolbar as it was before. Sorry for the
>> inconvenience.
> 
> But there is no way I can re-arrange it. There is no URL icon in the "Edit
> Toolbars" window and I don't have a handler in the left of the toolbars to
> grab it and place it next to the icon toolbar. :o :o

When you are editting toolbar you can only have one of each type of object 
in your toolbars, so you have to dnd the addressbar from toolbar b to 
toolbar a. make sense? are we answering your question? I find it interesting 
that people are having problems witht that I wonder why. Needs 
investigation. 

>>Also a solution to the tab bar problem is to put tabs at the bottom of the
>>window with the statusbar inside of the tab. I hack my ephy to do this and
>>like it very much. In this setup you can always show the single tab without
>>really worrying about using too much screen estate since the tab isn't in
>>direct view (ie you can hid it off screen if you choose).
> 
> I do not agree with this, as traditionally all controls are in the beginning
> of the window. It does not make sense to have half of the controls in the
> upper side of the window and half of them in the lower side. Especially when
> you "close", "open in new window/tab" etc menus are on the upper side and
> then seen the results on the lower side. It is confusing for new users. 
> 

Well I would change this a bit. Trsditionally task switching actions are at 
the bottom of the screen (windows task bar, mac os dock) so putting the tabs 
at the bottom of the window makes sense to me. The one change I would make 
though, would be to remove close from the tabs and instead make the window 
border close button only close the current tab. This also helps alleviate 
some of the biggest problems with mdi, specifically the ease of data loss 
when accidentally closing a window when you mean to close a tab. I believe 
that "new" and "novice -> intermediate users" would probably find this more 
comforting and this behavior is much more forgiving to user mistakes. 
(unless we made ephy a true mdi app that saves its window state, but i don't 
think anyone actually wants that). 

>> Are you refering to the autoscrolling behavior in ie. I think thats a good
> idea. 
> 
> Yup. I personally don't use it on my XP desktop (got a wheel mouse), but it
> apparently is very useful on laptops! I did a test last night, putting my
> husband (XP user through and through) to use Mozilla, Galleon and Epiphany
> on Gnome. He got pissed off after 1 minute with the usability differences he
> encountered. He said "I just can't get used to this, don't like it". The
> problems were the autoscrolling behavior, the typing of "cnn" and then
> CNTL+Enter to autocomplete the URL and also the fact that middle clicking
> somewhere on Mozilla it loads Google searching for the string currently on
> the clipboard. I think Epiphany got most right though, in his mind, except
> the autoscriolling behavior. :D 
> 

I've been pushing for this. There is a half finished implementation in 
bugzilla, but feature freeze hit and i stopped working on it. 

dave