Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes

["Karen Sandler" <karen gnome org>]

On Fri, November 30, 2012 8:26 am, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary <dneary gnome org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote:
> > > > - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project
> > > > (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to
> > > > Privacy and Security.
> > >
> > >
> > > I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of
> > > view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense,
> > > but it will need more research before we can make a decision.
> >
> >
> > I assume everyone has heard about this by now?
> > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/
> >
> > Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of
> > repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to
> > avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal
> > activity.
> >
> > I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of
> > personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge
> > opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are
> > thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group
> > effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law
> > enforcement,
> > with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms.
> >
> > The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography.
> > We
> > cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another
> > story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on
> > the
> > internet with projects like ghostery and collusion:
> > http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html
> >
> > Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla
> > and
> > EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet
> > Liberty?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave.
>
> I'm with you 100% Dave! I would love to see us partner with Tor, EFF,
> Mozilla, etc on such a project to speak out and show how we are
> working to protect our and everyone elses' freedoms online. We could
> make the FoG Campaign about "Freedom & Privacy Online" which is what
> we are really talking about.

I'll reach out to EFF today - Tor works closely with them - to see if they
have anything in the works we can partner on!

karen

> The biggest 'disadvantage' to Tor as I understand it comes from the
> hit you take in overall network performance, which can be
> considerable, and is highly variable depending on the speeds you get
> through the nodes Tor chooses. If you get unlucky and hit a node run
> by somebody with a crappy connection like me, it can be considerable
> :) But sometimes the privacy it provides trumps the hit in speed you
> take - and for many people who are 'just surfing around' its not a big
> deal.
>
> HTH!
>
>
> Emily
>
>
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