Re: Migration of dia-list to GNOME Discourse instance

[Olav Vitters <ovitters gmail com>]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:52 AM Steve Litt <slitt troubleshooters com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:25:40 +0200
> Olav Vitters via dia-list <dia-list gnome org> wrote:
> > We've set up https://discourse.gnome.org a year and a half ago, as
> > part of an attempt at making the GTK mailing list more friendly to
> > newcomers.
>
> I can't imagine anything friendlier than email. It comes to you, you
> read it, you reply. No need to join yet another third party, no need to
> read and agree to yet another legal contract, many of which have "take
> your house" indemnification clauses.

You can set it so all of the dia tagged posts including all of the
replies all go via email. Replying can be done via email as well. Or
via a browser..

Discourse doesn't do away with email, it offers a bit more. Thanks to
that some things are nicer than before. E.g. it's easier to join a
discussion if you haven't yet subscribed to the list Also easier to
completely ignore some threads. There's also a concept of trust
levels, meaning that as people do more things Discourse allows those
people to do more. See
https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/.
At the moment various mailing lists often have long periods where
hardly anyone looks at the mailing list, meaning anything stuck in the
moderation queue is never acted upon.

When signing up there's a standard GNOME privacy policy. There's also
a terms of service, I don't see anything too strange in there. It
would be nice if they'd focus more on the Code of Conduct.

> > This experiment seems to have proven itself well enough,
> > and has since expanded to other territories as well. As such, we
> > believe it is time to make the same switch for most of our mailing
> > lists.
>
> I disagree.
>
> > This means that this mailing list will be archived in favour of
> > continued discussion at GNOME's Discourse instance. No need to worry
> > that this will mess with your workflow: it is still possible to get
> > notifications by email by subscribing to the appropriate tags and/or
> > posts. You can also still reply by e-mail if you prefer. Just like
> > before, it's also possible to receive a general weekly digest.
>
> Are there complete, detailed instructions on how to do so? And to what
> legalese must I agree in order to join GNOME's Discourse?

Instructions for receiving the emails:
1. Go to https://discourse.gnome.org/
2. Click sign up
3. Fill in: email, username, name (optional), password, probably click
some email confirmation link
4. Go to https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/dia
5. In the top right of the screen click on the bell icon. Choose what
kind of emails you want, e.g.:
- Watching first post (get new posts, but not any replies except if
someone addresses you)
- Watching (get new posts and all replies)

You can also be (optionally) notified via the browser. Per topic you
can choose how you get notified. E.g. if you choose 'watching first
post' for dia emails you'll be able to change it per topic to
'watching'. Similarly, if you do not want to follow a certain topic
you'll be able to ignore only that topic.

To post something:
a. Click https://discourse.gnome.org/new-topic?category=Applications&tags=dia
b. Go to https://discourse.gnome.org/, click new topic, fill in the
category and tag (dia)

To reply to something:
a. Either: Use a browser
b. Or: Reply to the email


> > The proposed closure of this mailing list will be on: Oct 30th, 2020
>
> I propose you don't do it.
>
> > As a subscriber of this mailing list please create an account on
> > https://discourse.gnome.org/. It's unfortunately not possible to
> > automatically migrate the existing subscribers to Discourse. In case
> > you wonder what will happen to the current mailing list after the
> > closure date: the archives will remain public though you won't be
> > able to subscribe or send emails to the current list.
> >
> > For dia-list the new discussions would take place in the Applications
> > category on Discourse using the 'dia' tag. Unfortunately creating a
> > new thread with a dia tag is not possible at this time, the following
> > link can be used:

Regards,
Olav