Re: Page Breaks - what are they for?



It adds up every time I do it.  I am thinking calculator, too.

Maybe you could provide the pertinent screen dumps: workspace with zoom level and rulers, Page Setup, Preferences/Grid Lines, Diagram Properties.

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chris G <cl isbd net> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:26:16PM -0500, Michael Ross wrote:
>    I probably said that three different ways in the prior messages I sent.  I
>    am not encouraged that you will read my replies with interest.
>
... and I'm thinking exactly the same in the other direction!  :-)

Surely the page width as shown in dia plus the margins should add up to
the actual page width of the A4 paper.  It doesn't!  That's all I'm saying.


>    On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Chris G <[1]cl isbd net> wrote:
>
>      On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:05:16PM -0500, Michael Ross wrote:
>      >    On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Chris G <[1][2]cl isbd net>
>      wrote:
>      >
>      >      On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 04:06:03PM +0100, Maciej Jaros wrote:
>      >      > Chris G (2010-12-29 14:17):
>      >      > >>>It took me a while to realise that the solid blue lines
>      *were* the
>      >      Page
>      >      > >>>Breaks and that I could remove them using the Preferences
>      settings.
>      >      > >>>That's good as I find them distracting because they sit very
>      close
>      >      > >>>to some of the major grid lines on my system.
>      >      > >>>
>      >      > >>>However I also don't understand what they're for, they don't
>      appear
>      >      to
>      >      > >>>indicate actual paper size blocks on the diagram, on my
>      system they
>      >      seem
>      >      > >>>to be just over 15cm wide (hence the blue line is very close
>      to the
>      >      15cm
>      >      > >>>grid line) and 24cm high.  The default paper size on my
>      system is
>      >      A4 so
>      >      > >>>those dimensions are nothing like the paper size.
>      >      > >>Page Break lines indicate where will the page end if you will
>      print
>      >      > >>your diagram. You can change settings in Page Setup.
>      >      > >>
>      >      > >Yes, but that's the issue/problem.  In Page Setup it says I'm
>      using
>      >      A4
>      >      > >paper which is 21cm x 29.7cm but the page breaks are marked on
>      my
>      >      > >diagram at 15cm x 24cm.  The margins aren't *that* wide!  :-)
>      >      >
>      >      > Sorry, but I would suggest you use a calculator.
>      >      >
>      >      I'm not *quite* that silly (not to do the sums first I mean).
>      >
>      >      The blue lines on my on screen diagram show 'pages' 15.4 x 24.0
>      cm.
>      >
>      >      Page Setup shows:-
>      >         Paper Size - A4 - 21 x 29.7cm
>      >         Top margin - 14.35mm
>      >         Bottom margin 14.35mm
>      >         Left margin 10.00mm
>      >         Right margin 10.00mm
>      >
>      >      Now my simple arithmetic says that 15.4cm + 10.00mm + 10.00mm is
>      17.4cm,
>      >      quite a lot less than A4's 21cm wide.  Similarly the height is
>      24cm +
>      >      14.35mm + 14.35mm which is a less than A4's 29.7cm high.
>      >
>      >    The page breaks are NOT the paper size - they are the paper size
>      minus the
>      >    margins you have set.
>      >
>      **EXACTLY** !!!!!!!
>
>      Paper size - 21cm wide
>      Margins - 1cm each side
>
>      Therefore printable area (as should be shown by the page breaks) is 21cm
>      minus 2cm which is 19cm.  The page breaks I'm seeing in dia are close to
>      15cm.  I.e. "paper size minus the margins you have set" *isn't* what I'm
>      seeing.
>

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