Re: questions/experiences after a night spent with Dia 0.94 (WinXP)
- From: Lars Clausen <lars raeder dk>
- To: discussions about usage and development of dia <dia-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: questions/experiences after a night spent with Dia 0.94 (WinXP)
- Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:41:29 +0100
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 01:10 +0000, Mischa Oliver Altmann wrote:
Lars Clausen wrote:
Mischa Altmann wrote:
Installation (V0.94, WinXP using http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net,
- later i realised that certain button images are missing (e.g. snap to
grid toggle, all in layer tool box) they show up as white pages with
red x. Any ideas?
That is a Windows installation issue, which has a bug report on it.
I can't find anything on this (except a simliar debian issue
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152142 ) -- still getting used
to the bug-search facility (so much for usability...)
Bug #151746, you were close.
- updating of screen is sometimes slow/stuck especially when using
layers. View > Redraw resolves this most of the time. I cant
necessarily reproduce this. Hints appreciated...
I believe there is a bug report on this happening on Windows.
This is not *exactly* reproducible (same steps dont lead to same results)
but creeps up every now and then (esp. with increased complexity & layers
-- this might be an illusion because more complexity means more stuff that
can make this bug more obvious).
Could we give Redraw a keyboard shortcut as a short term "solution?"
It is possible in GTK to dynamically assign shortcuts, though you'll
have to set some GTK-wide property first, and I'm not sure how to do
that on windows. We could assign one of the function keys to it for
now, I suppose.
- why do most shapes have connection points but some dont?
(e.g. the most basic shapes in "assorted" do not)
Which ones of Asserted don't?
Geometric - Quater Circle
" - Four Point
" - Eight Point
Assorted - Heart
Assorted - Quater Moon
[note: this is for 0.94 -- cvs might be different]
Ah, those weren't exactly what I was thinking of as "most basic".
- <Alt+T> open the Tools menu but is also assigned to select
the text tool
Oops. Personally, I never got into the whole
keyboard-shortcuts-for-menus thing, so I tend to miss those things.
There's several other of those. Could you file a bugreport on that?
filed as WinXP specific bug as i dont know about other platforms. Anyone?
Also happens under Linux, if the menubar is on.
- the aligning of elements generally works well. it would be
useful to have these functions readily available (small buttons)
and/or spacially (logically) placed
[snip: example layout]
The menu can be detached, at least under Linux, which I will do on
occasion. That helps enough that I consider this a very minor issue.
ok, how about being able to make a toolbox "always on top" of other
windows? this would be an improvement for those who ask for dockable
toolboxes -- i think.
There was an attempt at that in earlier versions, but I never think it
got to really work.
- how do i join two two arrows: ie how do i get a connection point
at the end of an arrow? This was discussed in
but I dont understand what Lars meant.
My suggestion would be to have a shape that is no more than
a connection point (and if necessary a "dot" that blends in with
attached shapes/lines). This sounds easy but I dont know how easy it
is to implement.
Such a shape could indeed connect two lines, but it would be difficult
i understand. I'll see if i have the time to test this out.
How would you do an organigram without this facility?
+-----+-----+--- ... ---+
| | |
+--+--+ +--+--+ +--+--+
+ + + + + +
+--+--+ +--+--+ +--+--+
One zigzagline from each of the lower boxes to the higher box. Or use
the Bus object out of Network, though that is old and crappy in many
- how do i join an arrow to the somewhere on a zigzag, poly or
bizier? I could create a mini-shape (but i cant move this
minishape, as i would stretch it by click+drag)...
No way to do this, as they don't have connectionpoints on them. Not an
easy issue, I'm afraid, but suggestions are welcome.
errm, me? :-/
- Trapezoids aligned using "centered" produce angled connecting arrows:
There is a bug report for this. Both ways look a little funny in some
can't find it, sorry
situations. The upcoming mainpoint system should help.
mentions mainpoints but I am not sure how this helps.
It will, don't worry.
there's good input there. Filing bugzilla.gnome.org reports on the most
important things is the best way to not have me forget:)
you shouldn't have said this >:-)
You make me feel like Hagrid:)
Lars Clausen (lars raeder dk, larsrc gmail com, http://lars.raeder.dk)
"I do not agree with a word that you say, but I will defend to the
death your right to say it."
--Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire
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