Re: Grafcet and other improvement

[Alexis MARTINI <alexis martini wanadoo fr>]

Lars Clausen wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:
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> > Luc Pionchon wrote:
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> > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:03:14 +0100 (BST)
> > > Alan Horkan <horkana maths tcd ie> wrote:
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> > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:
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> > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:50:47 +0200
> > > > > From: Alexis MARTINI <alexis martini wanadoo fr>
> > > > > Reply-To: dia-list gnome org
> > > > > To: dia-list gnome org
> > > > > Subject: Grafcet and other improvement
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, I am very interesting in using DIA in business. In fact I am an
> > > > > ingenieur in automation and so I used a lot GRAFCET, LADDER and
> > > > > SADT. If you need more knowledg on this ask me.
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> > > > >          
> > > > Great, thank you for the generous offer.
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> > > > > But to use it in business, DIA must have some fue improvement, the
> > > > > first, and for me the more important: a cartridge surounding the
> > > > > diffÃrent pages, with some information which could be configured by
> > > > > user, and automated
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > I am not sure what you mean by cartridge?
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> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > - description, same for all pages
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> > > > I have in mind to add a Properties Dialog where you would be able to set
> > > > things like Description, Subject, Author, Creation Date.
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> > > >        
> > > *this* is the "cartridge" ;)
> > >
> > > (a straight translation from Technical French "cartouche")
> > > une cartouche = cartridge
> > > UN  cartouche = ??? (I do not know neither)
> > > = The box that you draw on each diagram/sketch/plan/drawing,
> > > with company logo, signature, author, date, ...
> > > depending of the standard of the company.
> > >
> > >      
> > Yes, it is this last deffinition!
> > Oups I am demasked as French people ....
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> Ach, ze French...:)
>
> I see what it is you want.  It wouldn't be too hard to have a 'template
> page' behind every page printed, but Dia has little idea of page numbers.
> In fact the split into pages is more of a printing hack than something
> closely tied to the diagram itself, and it'd require a fair amount of
> hacking to get page numbers accessible.
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> > > > These could probably be covered by extra property pairs (name, value)
> > > > added by the user.
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> > > > > I thing it is good to don't see the cartridge all the time, to have it
> > > > > just before printing, in prevue. So it wont split the drawing when
> > > > > making it .
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > There are already lines on the Graph indicating the page edges.
> > > >
> > > >        
> > I didn't mind about this unprinted line, bute ligne who will suround
> > the printed page, just like in technical drawing.
> > This is tru for other DIAgrams, like electrical for exemple.
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> You're saying you want some surrounding box-thing?  Can you point us to an
> example of this?
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> > A remarque about this: when repering a cail or a contactor on an
> > electrical diagrams, the referance take a symbole for the element (C
> > or K for contactor, B for detector, D for Dejonctor for exemple) plus
> > the page number and a number which represente the number of the
> > element in the page. For example
> > K100-1 : Kontactor 1 in page 100
> > D201 : Dijoncteur 1 in page 100 ...
> >
> > Can you do something?
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> At the moment, this is way beyond Dia.  With no page numbers available, and
> no way to indicate them even if they were, we can't do this.  (La)TeX would
> be able to do this easily, but it's a very different system.  I have hopes
> of more interaction with (La)TeX, but in a different (pageless) way.
>
> That kind of naming seems rather fragile, tool.  Doesn't that mean that if
> an extra page is inserted, all references to the elements are wrong?  But
> if that's what you're working with...
>
> -Lars
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I have an exemple of Grafcet and electrical drawing. At whiwh meal can I 
send it?
It is composed of several .DXF files and a .XLS for the grafcets.

Alexis