Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

[Isaque Galdino <igaldino gmail com>]

I've seen this thread so far and I'd like to add my POV.

I don't thing master is an offensive word because in Portuguese, among other meanings, it also means "matrix".

Any choosen work will have a different meaning depending upon culture, tradition and spoken-language.

We can't though forget to add a context to te given word, which will make a huge difference so people can understand it clearly.

E.g. I'm Christian and daemon is not a nice word for any Christian in the world, but in the context of computing, it makes sense that something that runs alone, managing some aspect of the computer, just like a supernatural being, been called that.

Moving to mainline won't do any good in my POV. The problem is not in the vocabulary, but in people.

Em sex, 26 de abr de 2019 às 09:44, Carmen Bianca Bakker <carmen carmenbianca eu> escreveu:

Hi Michael,

Je ven, 2019-04-26 je 09:24 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 09:02, Carmen Bianca Bakker
> <carmen carmenbianca eu> wrote:
> > Defaults and conventions matter. One reason I like GNOME so much is
> > because the defaults are amazing. And while "master" is a bit of a
> > sucky default, it still has a lot of weight as a default. And I
> > question whether it is worth the effort to change that default over a
> > tiny bit of suckiness.
>
> This precisely indicates the problem with the current situation: The
> current default sucks, but nobody is willing to change it because
> nearly everyone every one else is doing it.

I understand this sentiment. And while I can appreciate wanting to
change sucky defaults, I suppose what I'm trying to say is that maybe
the default isn't sucky enough to justify going through all the pain of
changing it.

I'm making the assertion that "master" in the context of Git branches
is not an obstacle towards social inclusiveness within GNOME. That
assertion is entirely unfounded, but it's what makes sense to me.

If someone can demonstrate that "master"---in this specific context---
is indeed harmful, then obviously renaming the default branch would be
a goal worth pursuing. But I'm doubtful whether it is possible to
demonstrate that, or whether anybody has the resources available to do
that.

So I don't know what the best thing to do is. It's like knowing that
driving on the left side of the road is just a slight little bit safer
than driving on the right side of the road. It'd be _nice_ if we could
all just change to driving on the left side of the road, but the
monumental effort that that would require just isn't worth the
extremely slight bump in safety.

Maybe that metaphor isn't one-to-one applicable, but I think it gets my
sentiment across.

> (Carmen, this isn't a dig at you, but at us in general)

:-)

With kindness,
Carmen

_______________________________________________
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

--

Isaque Galdino
"sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam" -- Iohannes 3:16