Re: Fixing calendars in GNOME

[Rick Opper <rickopper gmail com>]

Hi,

There has been a love-hate relationship between Gnome and Evolution for
as long as I've used gnome (since 2.6)... It does a good job and the
developers seem really close to Gnome, they are pretty (re)active, and
the project is actively developed/maintained, but they seem reluctant
to make Gnome-centric changes (like a header-bar).

Yorba tried, but ultimately failed, to provide set of apps as
alternatives - even though they were more modern looking and seemed to
integrate with the Gnome environment.

Gnome is trying too (seems to have shot Yorba in the foot). It seems
that the biggest issue in all this effort is "stand-alone". This was an
issue for me too, but each component of Evolution can be launched
alone.

I think there are many areas of improvement for Evolution, but I also
think the distance from where Evolution is now to where it could be in
the Gnome desktop experience is far shorter than for California or even
Gnome Calendar.

Just my feeling so far, but I've tried them all (for mail, tasks,
calendars...)

-Rick



On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 18:57 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Please, if you respond to this mail, CC desktop-devel-list and not
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>
> On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 21:25 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> > As you probably know, for one reason or other, scheduling
> > applications 
> > have important drawbacks in GNOME right now. And after studying
> > the 
> > problem for a while, I came to the conclusion that the California 
> > application is the closest to do it right now.
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for taking initiative with this. I agree, we need to roll out
> a
> modern calendar app sooner rather than later.
>
> Are you aware of the GNOME Calendar project, and if so, can you
> elaborate on why you think California is a better bet than improving
> GNOME Calendar? The applications look quite similar to me, but GNOME
> Calendar is a very active project headed towards becoming a core
> GNOME
> app, whereas California is completely dead.
>
> The only reason GNOME Calendar is not in core already is that I've
> found it's slow and awkward to select start and end time when adding
> new events, as compared to doing the same quickly and easily in
> Evolution. This is a problem, but I don't think this would be so hard
> to improve.
>
> Michael
>
> P.S. You linked to Ubuntu's downstream bugtracker; California uses
> bugzilla.gnome.org for bug tracking:
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=browse.html&product=california
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