Re: A dock

[Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me>]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:37 PM, alex diavatis
<alexis diavatis gmail com> wrote:
> Hello Emmanuele,
>
> > While I think we can discuss whether the presence of a dock could
> > ensure gaining users, I also don't think GNOME needs to "win back"
> > users in the first place.
>
> What that's supposed to mean? GNOME doesn't need to get users back?
> Just curious, coz I see the opposite. Which obviously isn't matter of a dock
> not even matter if GNOME is better or worse than others.

Not to put words in Emmanuele' mouth.  But what I think he means is
that putting a dock on the screen for the reasons of getting user's
back should not be itself be a goal.  The desktop community has an ebb
and flow.  People are constantly moving from one desktop to another as
each one makes a new release, at least that is my observation.  We
should focus on making sure that we have a high quality desktop that
conforms to our design philosophy of Just Works and distraction free
computing.

sri

> - alex
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Joern Konopka <cldx3000 googlemail com>
> wrote:
> > Hey Sebastien and Alex :)
> >
> > As you both can see, there are just two emails in this Thread, and we
> > already covered the spectrum of opinions.
> >
> > For my part, you should know that i'm actively working on one of those
> > Dock Extension that have been mentioned. But i'm not gonna say that
> > everybody should use it. Instead i want to emphasize that i think having a
> > Dock in an Extension Scope is the PERFECT solution for a Dock. And here's
> > why.
> >
> > Docks will never make everybody happy. There are too many behaviours
> > people expect, too many options, too many positions people argue about.
> >
> > Take into account that we are moving towards a more and more
> > device-agnostic playfield. An (intellhide) Dock just isn't a viable solution
> > for a range of Devices. I'm not the guru of anything Gnome is up to. But i
> > think including a component that's so complex and also personal in its
> > behaviour and usage is actually better off being an Extension.
> >
> > Also i would like to point out that we keep on forgetting that Extensions
> > are not some kinda stripped down shoehorned replacement of real Shell
> > programming. They are REALLY powerful. Why they seem to be objected to
> > something that's *lower* than Shell Code is beyond me. Maybe it's the
> > presentation? Is it the quality of Extensions? Maybe that's really where we
> > should be looking for a solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Samstag, 4. April 2015 schrieb alex diavatis :
> > > Hello Sebastien,
> > >
> > > Also as a desktop user, I do think that would be awful. Your OS X
> > > example, is a good example why GNOME should avoid
> > > intelligent hide docs. It doesn't even work either good on Elementary, or
> > > with extensions.
> > >
> > > But since you like it, and since  you already know how you can use it,
> > > and since any distro can ship such an extension,
> > > whats the point of making default? :/
> > >
> > > - alex
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Sébastien D. <se8 and gmail com> wrote:
> > > > First, I want to thank you and congratulate you for Gnome 3.16. It's a
> > > > great release and I'm in love with it : beautiful, simple, clean and
> > > > not bloated with useless features. We spend 99% of our time in a
> > > > browser nowadays and it's so cool to have this stellar browser :
> > > > Epiphany.
> > > >
> > > > But as a desktop user, the navigation between applications is a pain
> > > > to work with. I have tried hard to get used to, but it's still not a
> > > > smooth process. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe Gnome is more targeted
> > > > for laptops and tablets.
> > > >
> > > > So, a quick idea : now that notifications have moved away, why not put
> > > > a permanent dock in the bottom of the screen (like OS X or something
> > > > like that) ?
> > > >
> > > > I know that extensions can just do that, but it could be a good move
> > > > to win back desktop users (and distributions).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, I wish you the best,
> > > >
> > > > Sébastien
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