On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 16:00 -0500, Mike wrote:
[...] I don't know how does the testing goes inside RedHat, but I found GNOME 3 still needs to be tested far more than now before each release. Example above indicates that the testing process does not even consider about existence of input context at all.
Wait a minute. GNOME is developed by a bunch of people, volunteers and from different affiliations. Some of them are Red Hat employees to work full time on GNOME, everybody appreciate that. But that is not a reason to dismiss the effort of many volunteers who work on GNOME in their spare time. It is known in GNOME that we lack of testers, people who take the time to build and test the whole desktop *before* it is released. That was also true in the GNOME 2 era. Something that should start changing with gnome-ostree (you should take a look at that!). You would be very welcome to test GNOME and file descriptive bugs that allow to improve the quality of a GNOME release.
BTW, may be a little off topic. I'm confused a bit about the target or the goal of GNOME 3 right now. Just this morning I was told on the bugzilla that GNOME maintainers "are not meant to be the slaves of popularity contests". Does this imply that GNOME 3 will not target for "number-one" free software OS? There are a lot of feature requests in the mailing list and bugzilla by the users, and maintainers decided to drop them for "simplicity". It seems to me that maintainers of various components do not want it to be popular, or at least do not want to be popular among those users who requested those features. (I'm not being hostile at this idea at all, it's completely understandable and for sure a lot of ugliness are introduced by "feature requests by massive users".)
If one million of flies like sh*t, it does not mean that the sh*t is good. Try to walk on maintainer/volunteer shoes. Let's assume I am maintainer: In my not copious spare time, I work on the features I would like to use myself. I will be happy hacking on them and I will be happy using them once they are done. If those are good for you, great. If those makes my application popular, great. If not, move on. I prefer to work on something I enjoy, rather than allowing other people to set my priorities and make unhappy in my spare time. However, I am open to discuss fair points that make me change my priorities, but that should not take more time than I would use for hacking. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/
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