Re: Middle click, "dumbing down" Slashdotted

[Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>]

On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 12:53 -0700, Dave Johansen wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Allan Day <allanpday gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Tomasz Torcz <tomek pipebreaker pl> wrote:
> > > > You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
> > > > middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
> > > > have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better
> > > > to wait until the text selection designs have been documented before
> > > > we discuss it. :)
> > >
> > >   I think ”have not been publicised” is the exact pain point of design
> > > process.  Wider community has no insight into design until it's
> > > finished.  And it's too late for a meaningful input at that point.
> >
> > The designs haven't been publicised because they are not sufficiently
> > developed, and as such have not been documented. Once they are there
> > will be opportunity for discussion.
>
> I think that that's the whole complaint about this sort of change. It's a
> major change to a core functionality and it's been designed "behind closed
> doors"? The complaint (or at least mine) isn't that this sort of change is
> happening but that it's being done without any input from users (or in this
> case in blatant disregard of the input from users, i.e. several of the
> comments on this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665193).

Shouldn't the person proposing the change have the opportunity to
develop a well-thought-out proposal?  You make it seem like the posting
of any such proposed design is the end of the discussion, but in reality
it's a design proposal that can and will get discussed before being
implemented (or not).

Dan