On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 11:08 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
1) For applications that retain a traditional menu bar, there's inconsistency in whether options added to the app menu are also removed from the traditional menu. E.g. Gedit and Totem (3.6/3.8) removed Help, About, and Preferences from their traditional menu, but Terminal, Eye of GNOME, and Aisleriot have left them where they were (so they're now in two places). We need to pick one method and use it consistently.yes. file bugs against applications that do not move them consistently. when in doubt, ask the maintainers and the designers to talk and clear out any doubts.
At least Evolution doesn't want to do this [1] I personally think it's a bit silly to have the same menu item available in two menus, but the concern about "butchering menus" is very reasonable. I suspect bugs against Terminal/EoG/Aisleriot will go similarly, so I hesitate to file them in the absence of more official guidance. In fact, the HIG draft [2] expressly says that commonly-used app menu elements can be duplicated elsewhere, and there's no mention at all of prohibiting the elements in the traditional menubar. So the draft clearly does need clarification. (You said this should be discussed on IRC, but that doesn't seem right for something that affects several programs. I guess this list is the closest we have to a design list?) I really hope we can agree on and enforce a solution that provides consistency between apps that retain traditional menubars. Maybe it'd be easier to agree on duplicating the items than moving them. Happy Monday! [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675154 [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/HIG/ApplicationMenus
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