Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 10:12 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:36 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 17:49 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote:
> > > hi Bastien,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 22:38 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > > commit 27fa171efe4179c0a42ec79e0dc501077f042a08
> > > > Author: Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
> > > > Date:   Thu Jan 19 22:33:21 2012 +0000
> > > > 
> > > >     datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism
> > > >     
> > > >     Now that gnome-control-center uses systemd's date & time mechanism[1],
> > > >     we don't need to ship our own mechanism for that purpose. This also
> > > >     removes the last user of dbus-glib in gnome-settings-daemon [2].
> > > 
> > > Are there plans to provide a systemd-compatible backend for those
> > > systems that cannot run systemd?
> > 
> > No, the distributions/systems that choose not to use systemd will have
> > to provide a compatible D-Bus service.
> > 
> > It can be something "extracted" from systemd, or something new and
> > revived from the old date and time mechanism, but it won't be something
> > we support and maintain in gnome-settings-daemon.
> 
> Then we need to clearly communicate what we expect distributors to
> provide. What systemd interfaces are we allowed to depend on without
> asking?

The systemd interfaces that don't rely on systemd being the init system.
In this case, hostnamed, localed and timedated.

I'm sure we'll get to have discussions again when ConsoleKit goes away.
For now, the multi-seat support code in systemd is a compile-time option
for gnome-control-center, and soon for gnome-settings-daemon.

>  Any of them? I'm not going to read that old 116-post thread
> on d-d-l to find out.
> 
> We used to provide pages like this for every release:
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNinetyone/ExternalDependencies
> 
> Now, not so much.

This should have been updated:
https://live.gnome.org/PortabilityMatrix