Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration
- From: Maciej Marcin Piechotka <uzytkownik2 gmail com>
- To: Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
- Cc: Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>, desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration
- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:13:45 -0700
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 15:20 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 14:50 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
> <snip>
> > And, did you think about setting up the formal survey? Your idea to
> > ask people was really good!
>
> I think that our past experience with "surveys" done in the context of
> GNOME have shown that this sort of survey isn't useful.
>
> Asking people isn't about tallying who wants this option to stay, or
> absolutely needs the frobnicator to whirr clockwise, it's about defining
> requirements, and seeing how people use the current tools. Open
> questions are much more likely to bring in useful data for the design
> process than a survey ever would be.
>
> Taken to the extreme, as an example you'll be familiar with: if you
> asked "how many people use more than 1 keyboard layout" on a Russian
> Linux site, you'll get 90% positive responses. If you asked the same
> thing on a French end-user forum, you'd get close to zero, with none of
> them knowing what a compose key is, because it's just "the Alt-Gr key".
>
> So any survey is likely to be biased, which makes surveys not so useful.
>
> Hopefully we can get Rui's code merged in early enough that we can catch
> most of the obvious problems before release, and work from there.
>
Wait - aren't compose key and Alt-Gr 2 keys? I thought the compose key
is the one used with XCompose used by 'geeks' to have various symbols
such as γ or ∈. Alt-Gr (at least the key marked as Alt-Gr) uses
alternative keys in layout for example ą, ę (this can be overriden by
xmodmap).
Best regards
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