Re: IRC channels in gnome development

[Olav Vitters <olav vitters nl>]

On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 02:02:10AM +0000, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 02:52 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:25:08PM +0000, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> > > Could there be a recommendation against discussion of important
> > > decisions on IRC? While I understand that it may slow down process
> > > probably but it would improve developer-user relationships as well as
> > > transparency and inclusiveness of process.
> > 
> > We hold our release-team meetings on IRC and prefer to keep them on IRC.
> > 
> > However, we make minutes and send them to the mailing list.
> 
> Great. However:
> 
>  - Which mailing list? There is no gnome-design list listed and on gnome
> wiki there is only reference to gnome-shell mailing list. I am however
> nearly sure it is neither d-d-l nor g-s.

release-team mailing list. Depending on the topic, devel-announce-list
is informed.

>  - Why noone in discussion pointed out the minutes with arguments to
> complainers?

I'm talking about the release team, not what you're referring to
(#gnome-design channel only?). You've requested everyone in GNOME not to
discuss important decisions on IRC. I'm pointing out that #1 works fine
for release-team and #2 your request is pretty generic.

> > Further, we
> > discuss beforehand when a meeting will be held. Suggest that you propose
> > such things.
> > 
> 
> I'm sorry but English is my second language and I'm afraid I haven't
> understood last sentence.

We (release team) make various efforts to keep everyone informed. By
minutes and discussing beforehand when we meet. Further, we send to
devel-announce-list when needed.

If one team (#gnome-design) doesn't follow that, you can do various
things to actually make things better. A few changes/additions to the
way they work to ensure the process is workable for everyone. This e.g.
by minutes, agreeing on meeting times, etc.

-- 
Regards,
Olav