Re: Modulesets Reorganization

On Mi, 2010-06-02 at 10:29 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mercredi 02 juin 2010, à 10:15 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit :
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys pld-linux org> wrote:
> > >> The long term plan for the GNOME applications that were removed from the
> > >> Desktop, Admin and Dev Tools modulesets is to simply highlight the high-quality
> > >> applications using the GNOME platform through our communication channels
> > >> (release notes, website, etc). There will be no "official" apps anymore and no
> > >> 'Applications' moduleset in the GNOME releases. The goal here is be more open
> > >> with the app developer community around GNOME and to highlight all the nice
> > >> things that can be created using our platform.
> > >
> > > And this might do the exact opposite of what we all want it to do.
> > > Instead of sending a "you are now all equal" message it might
> > > communicate that "you are now equally not worthy". Or just "you are
> > > now on the same level" even if the level of integration and sheer
> > > polish is nowhere to be compared.
> > >
> > > It will also kill the "magic moment" I experienced twice - once when I
> > > helped Daniel with Cheese and a second time when hacking on Hasmter
> > > with Toms. The moment that comes after weeks of mad hacking when you
> > > decide your work is finally good enough to become part of GNOME.
> What if suddenly cheese gets promoted on the frontpage? Or
> it's one highlight of the release notes for GNOME X.Y? Wouldn't this be
> a similar magic moment? And yes, we should do this for the great
> applications.

this wouldnt be the same: we, and probably all desktop modules, worked
very hard to accomplish all the features and requirements of the gnome
inclusion. it then makes people proud when a module gets *officially*
accepted and included in the gnome module set.

promotion of apps can be done right now, without "kicking out desktop

to be honest: when i install a gnome application like tomboy, gedit,
cheese, ... i _know_ that this module is a good piece of software, as it
is a gnome module. this is not the case with other apps you can find on
the net, even if they base on gtk/gnome.

> > Forgot to mention: not having a single release schedule will also make
> > it very hard for app authors to propose, track and depend on features
> > of the underlying platform or - even worse - features introduced in
> > other apps.
> Huh. There's really a misunderstanding here. We *do* encourage people to
> follow our best practices, which includes following our release
> schedule. Take banshee: they use our release schedule. The six-months
> schedule won't disappear.
> Vincent

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