On Mi, 2010-06-02 at 10:29 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mercredi 02 juin 2010, à 10:15 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys pld-linux org> wrote: > > >> The long term plan for the GNOME applications that were removed from the > > >> Desktop, Admin and Dev Tools modulesets is to simply highlight the high-quality > > >> applications using the GNOME platform through our communication channels > > >> (release notes, website, etc). There will be no "official" apps anymore and no > > >> 'Applications' moduleset in the GNOME releases. The goal here is be more open > > >> with the app developer community around GNOME and to highlight all the nice > > >> things that can be created using our platform. > > > > > > And this might do the exact opposite of what we all want it to do. > > > Instead of sending a "you are now all equal" message it might > > > communicate that "you are now equally not worthy". Or just "you are > > > now on the same level" even if the level of integration and sheer > > > polish is nowhere to be compared. > > > > > > It will also kill the "magic moment" I experienced twice - once when I > > > helped Daniel with Cheese and a second time when hacking on Hasmter > > > with Toms. The moment that comes after weeks of mad hacking when you > > > decide your work is finally good enough to become part of GNOME. > > What if suddenly cheese gets promoted on the www.gnome.org frontpage? Or > it's one highlight of the release notes for GNOME X.Y? Wouldn't this be > a similar magic moment? And yes, we should do this for the great > applications. this wouldnt be the same: we, and probably all desktop modules, worked very hard to accomplish all the features and requirements of the gnome inclusion. it then makes people proud when a module gets *officially* accepted and included in the gnome module set. promotion of apps can be done right now, without "kicking out desktop applications". to be honest: when i install a gnome application like tomboy, gedit, cheese, ... i _know_ that this module is a good piece of software, as it is a gnome module. this is not the case with other apps you can find on the net, even if they base on gtk/gnome. > > > Forgot to mention: not having a single release schedule will also make > > it very hard for app authors to propose, track and depend on features > > of the underlying platform or - even worse - features introduced in > > other apps. > > Huh. There's really a misunderstanding here. We *do* encourage people to > follow our best practices, which includes following our release > schedule. Take banshee: they use our release schedule. The six-months > schedule won't disappear. > > Vincent > -- this mail was sent using 100% recycled electrons ================================================ daniel g. siegel <dgsiegel gnome org> http://home.cs.tum.edu/~siegel gnupg key id: 0x6EEC9E62 fingerprint: DE5B 1F64 9034 1FB6 E120 DE10 268D AFD5 6EEC 9E62 encrypted email preferred
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