Re: Sound system - user perspective



On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 20:11 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sun, 13.09.09 19:18, Maciej Piechotka (uzytkownik2 gmail com) wrote:
> 
> > I spotted an area in which Gnome desktop can offer better user
> > experience.
> > 
> > Imagine I use VoIP (skype, empathy or anything like that) and some music
> > player (Banshee, Rhythmbox etc.). I listen to some music or a podcast
> > when someone ring.
> > 
> > I have to stop the music and answer the phone. However I guess that
> > music/podcast should actually be paused (i.e. state in application
> > should be stopped) instead of being just volume down. 
> > 
> > I'm not sure if current architecture would allow such integration and
> > probably it would require changes to few packages (music player and
> > empathy at least) I prefer to post the idea here firstly. 
> 
> This logic is actually already supported in PulseAudio and activated
> by default.
> 
> This all depends on that applications properly tag their audio
> streams, i.e. so that it is clear which stream is telephony, which one
> is event sounds, and which one is music. Some apps have now started to
> do this properly. In fact the next beta of Skype will do this too. And
> if your favourite telephony or music app still doesn't then please
> complain and file a bug and ask them to read this:
> 
>      http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/tagging-audio.html
> 
> and this:
> 
>      http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/ApplicationProperties
> 
> The logic in PA will mute every stream tagged as "music" as soon as a
> stream tagged as "phone" is active. It will also send an asynchronous
> event to each music playing client requesting that it should pause its
> playback. If the "phone" stream goes away the "music" streams will be
> unmuted again and the apps notified that it is a good idea to unpause
> playback again.
> 

I heard about tagging but I haven't heard (till your mail) about sending
event. 

> Unfortunately GStreamer does not have a nice API for tagging streams
> yet (this limitation can be circumvented via using environment
> variables which PA will pick up, but that's not a very nice
> solution). Also, GStreamer does not actually forward the pause request
> message to the applications and hence you'll effectively only see the
> muting taking happen, not the pause/unpause in current media players.
> 
> To make this all work nicely jut a little bit glue code needs to be
> written for Gst and some minor patches be prepared for the various
> telephony apps/media players. If someone wants to pick this up and
> push this through this would be really great!
> 
> Lennart
> 

Ok. Since the problem is in gstreamer I'll try to fill bugs against it
(or CC existing).

Regards

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