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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:33, Lennart Poettering <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mztabzr 0pointer de">mztabzr 0pointer de</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
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<div class=3D"Ih2E3d">On Mon, 12.01.09 16:55, Josselin Mouette (<a href=3D"=
mailto:joss debian org">joss debian org</a>) wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 =C3=A0 15:43 +0100, Lennart Poettering a =C3=
=A9crit :<br>
&gt; &gt; I don&#39;t think the advent of sound cards that do this kind of =
switching<br>
&gt; &gt; in software should hold as back and require us to export every si=
ngle<br>
&gt; &gt; crazy volume control to the user.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Still, this is not a reason to break things on systems which, for one<=
br>
&gt; reason or another, can't decently work with PA. I'd prefer to see a<br=
>
&gt; transition phase during which there is support for both setups (native=
<br>
&gt; PA or whatever GStreamer exports); the old interface could be removed<=
br>
&gt; once PA supports a reasonably complete range of setups.<br>
<br>
</div>Isn&#39;t the fact that we plan to include both volume controls in GN=
OME<br>
transition phase enough? Those distros who like PA adopt the new one,<br>
the ones who don&#39;t continue to use the old one. Distros who are unable<=
br>
to decide have to ship both, but hey that&#39;s what you get when you<br>
cannot decide.<br>
<br>
Given that some people don&#39;t want to adopt PA anytime soon (such as<br>
the Solaris folks) I don&#39;t think we will be able to remove the old Gst<=
br>
mixer any time soon either.&nbsp;</blockquote></div><br>From what I have re=
ad, it looks like there&#39;s no way to ship &quot;both&quot;. What I&#39;m=
 looking for is an &quot;advanced&quot; button on gnome-volume-control, so =
my view could be a bit biased.<br>
-- <br>Enver<br>

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