Re: Request for removing clutter in current form



On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:43 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 08:03 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> > > the majority of GPUs, nowadays, work fine on
> > > Linux with open source drivers[1], and provide the basic functionality
> > > that Clutter requires[2].
> > 
> > Except for some Intel cards, that's not true by a long shot. Only very
> > old ATI cards are supported, you can't buy a card retail (current radeon
> > HD4000 or even HD3000 or HD2000) that works in a current distribution or
> > even in the next batch of distribs (they are in alpha state already and
> > the drivers don't exist yet). NVIDIA are of course not supported at all
> > by OSS drivers (nouveau is progressing slowly).
> > 
> > Things are changing, but it'll be something like a full year before
> > end-users see all working on their desktop for ATi cards and more for
> > NVIDIA.
> 
> so you're saying that only old GPUs work, and Maciej is saying that old
> GPUs do not work.
> 

I'd add 'some' before 'old'. I do not know how many - I've seen at least
few laptops with compiz.

> it would be interesting to have a single place where the hardware
> support matrix was stored -- maybe on live.gnome.org or on
> freedesktop.org's wiki -- and updated.
> 
> ciao,
>  Emmanuele.
> 

Well - the general list for ATI is on Xorg but last time I've seen it it
is by revision (R100,R200,...). If in revision a card is nonstandard
(for example integrated) it may not work.

Regards

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