Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24



Telepathy and Empathy look very promising, but Telepathy doesn't support
buddy lists for IRC (and SIP) yet. Not having buddy lists for IRC would
be a major regression for my use patterns of IRC.

So personally I don't consider Empathy mature enough until Robert
McQueen has finished his work on IRC buddy lists.

Ciao,
Mathias

Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 11:50 +0100 schrieb Xavier Claessens:
> * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop.
> 
> * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable instant
> messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses
> Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main
> goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy and
> libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets
> that can be embeded into any GNOME application.
> 
> * Dependencies:
>   glib-2.0 >= 2.16.0
>   gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0
>   libxml-2.0
>   libtelepathy >= 0.3.2
>   telepathy-glib >= 0.7.3
>   libmissioncontrol >= 4.53
>   gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12.0
>   libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.0
>   libebook-1.2
>   libpanelapplet-2.0 >= 2.10.0
> 
> * Resource usage: Already using GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME bugzilla.
> 
> * Adoption: It is packaged at least for debian, ubuntu, mandriva, gentoo
> and fedora. There is patches for Totem and nautilus-send-to [2] to make
> use of libempathy(-gtk). There is a gtetrinet branch which uses
> libempathy-gtk to play with contacts. There is also a python plugin for
> epiphany using pyempathygtk [3]. Empathy is also used by Soylent [4].
> 
> * GNOME-ness: The community reports bugs in GNOME bugzilla and attach
> patches, I review and commit in GNOME's SVN. GNOME translation teams are
> already translating empathy. The UI is build with GNOME spirit in mind,
> empathy inherit from Gossip's excellent UI.
> 
> * Miscellaneous:
>  - Audio/Video support is still disabled by default but most problems
> comes from other telepathy layers and are being worked. I'm pretty sure
> it will be enabled soon. That means Empathy will be able to do
> audio/video calls over SIP and Jabber, MSN will surely come at some
> point too. Empathy is the only program capable of that AFAIK.
>  - libtelepathy is now deprecated, empathy is moving to telepathy-glib.
> If we finish the transition we'll drop libtelepathy dependency.
>  - Empathy's part for file-transfer is almost done, but the telepathy
> spec is likely to change soon. I hope it will be ready in time for 2.24.
>  - API is still not documented and likely to change, I know this sucks.
>  - There is no user documentation yet, I'll write an email to ask
> documentation team to write one base on Gossip's doc.
>  - Empathy was proposed for GNOME 2.22 but got rejected because it was
> not considered stable/mature enough. Lots is already fixed and I hope to
> fix more during the 6 months coming. Help from the community is of
> course welcome!
> 
> Thanks,
> Xavier Claessens.
> 
> [1] http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
> [2] http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=100
> [3] http://blog.senko.net/2007/07/19/emphatic-epiphany
> [4] http://live.gnome.org/Soylent
> 
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