Re: Using vala in GNOME

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote:
> Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:31 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +0000, Stef wrote:
> > > Interesting. That's a very valid concern.
> > > 
> > > Although this is a decidedly different case. Vala is used to generate C
> > > code for parts of seahorse. This C code is then checked into the
> > > repository, and included in the tarballs, so that people can build it
> > > without vala.
> > 
> > Right. Some of us have already been there with gob. I don't usually
> > think it's worth the pain, but it's your code. I'll start complaining
> > when I have to fix bugs in that code.
> 
> Just that gob wasn't half as ambitious as Vala. gob took some kind of
> minimum effort approach which lead to the effect that you were mixing
> high-level gob and low-level C code all the time. This just felt flaky
> and hackish.
> 
> Vala on the other hand tries to provide a complete user experience.
> Programming with it feels much better than it ever did with gob. Having
> written quite some C# and Java code I think, that writing Vala code
> feels as natural as with those languages. 

I'm not comparing featuresets. I'm saying it still feels like a
pre-processor. It needs native autotools[1] support before it's
considered for use in core components.

> While your rant has some justification

Just where you saw a rant, I don't know. I'd rather you didn't
attribute those kind of qualifiers to my messages in the future.

[1]: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472048