Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

[Johan Dahlin <jdahlin async com br>]

Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 12:19 -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
[..]

> Also, I find it funny that people that do not actually use either XCode
> or Visual Studio claim that supporting them is crucial.  Again, I don't
> trust that judgement without proof (statistics).  Now, I do know a few
> developers that use Visual Studio and can't live without it.  But among
> GNOME developers I have serious doubts anyone uses one of those IDEs.

Exactly because we don't have Visual Studio/XCode integration.
But adding them we would increase the developers that would be able to 
contribute to GNOME significantly. How do you expect Mac/Windows developers 
to contribute to GNOME if they can't even build it in their environment?

These arguments applies to the part of the stack that are usable outside of 
Linux/X11 which are not all of them. But we are starting to see more and 
more applications (Gimp, Evolution etc) that are ported to non-X11 platforms.

From my point of view, Gtk+ & the stack below dominates the platform.
What they will use will eventually be propagated up in the upper part of the 
platform stack.

The contribution barrier for GNOME is way to high as it is today, I'm merely 
trying to reduce it by allowing developers from other (as in non-unix) 
backgrounds be able to contribute.

Johan