Il giorno mer, 06/02/2008 alle 12.01 -0600, Shaun McCance ha scritto:
> On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:50 +0000, Iain * wrote:
> > On Feb 6, 2008 2:32 AM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys pld-linux org> wrote:
> > > All of these do show dialogs. None of
> > > these *require* any input before *you* (the user) decide that "their
> > > action is complete"
> >
> > No dialogs *require* input. But if the wording is indicative of there
> > being the possibility of input being required then it needs ...
> > So, "Setup Bluetooth..." because the action is "Set up the Bluetooth".
>
> Funny that you correctly identify the action as "Set up",
> but present "Setup" to the user. Setup is a noun. Period.
This is a good point, I totally missed it.
"Page Setup" is not an action, you can't 'perform' it, so you don't need
to input anything.
Maybe we are confused about "Page Setup" 'cause the dialog has
Apply/Cancel buttons: in a pure HIG implementation of this dialog it
should be auto-apply and provide only Close button.
Little OT: note that in required-input-before-perform dialogs (such as
Print) the confirmation button is grayed out when you open the dialog,
you have to select something in order to make it available.
> > > In short words: I don't agree.
> >
> > Thats fine, but you're wrong.
>
> I don't believe this is a black-and-white issue. There
> is a large range of types of dialogs a user might see
> upon clicking on a menu item. The ellipsis was not
> handed down to us by an omniscient deity. It is up
> to use to decide on a consistent application of it
> that is most beneficial to our users.
So, to go ahead, can we close this thread assuming
* Page Setup don't require further input
* Page Setup is like Preferences or Properties
* HIG say those entries don't need `...`
* like Socrates, having agreed to develop under HIG laws, we are
subjected to the event of disagree with them, but we have to
respect them.
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