Re: WebKit and GNOME

["T.V Raman" <raman google com>]

We inject the ARIA markup and other enhancements as needed from
the core Reader product. 

Most of these attributes are added at runtime, not in static
markup, since Reader is a very dynamic Web Application -- it's
*not* a document.

Also, in general, we will only emit ARIA markup to clients that
are capable of using the enhancements; it would be silly to ship
extra bytes to a browser that is going to throw it away.


David Bolter writes:
 > Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
 > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Bolter wrote:
 > >
 > >   
 > >> Hi Maciej,
 > >>
 > >> Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
 > >>     
 > >>> On Apr 1, 2008, at 12:13 PM, David Bolter wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>       
 > >>>> Hi Maciej,
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Thanks very much for providing this information. I have a brief   
 > >>>> comment about your accessibility section below:
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> This wording "Sometimes ARIA is mentioned in the context of    
 > >>>> accessibility - this is an interesting technology for future web   
 > >>>> apps" doesn't seem quite right to me. ARIA enabled browsers such  
 > >>>> as  Firefox provide access to ARIA enabled DHTML applications  
 > >>>> today.  Opera and IE8 are adding support today. Google is putting  
 > >>>> ARIA into  its web applications.
 > >>>>
 > >>>>         
 > >>> So far as I know, there isn't any major web app yet that is  
 > >>> already  using ARIA. I would appreciate correction on this front if  
 > >>> I have  missed anything.
 > >>>
 > >>>       
 > >> Sure. I'm not sure what classifies as a major web app, but how about  
 > >> google reader?
 > >> http://www.google.com/reader/view/?ui=axs
 > >>     
 > >
 > > I did find Google Reader in the FAQ just now, but it took me a while  
 > > to find the ARIA-enhanced version, since the main version does not  
 > > have ARIA markup and just has an invisible link. I'm looking right now  
 > > for actual signs of ARIA markup in the axs version using the live DOM  
 > > view of the Safari web inspector, I can't seem to find any elements  
 > > with aria-* attributes on them. Can anyone help me figure out where to  
 > > look?
 > >   
 > 
 > You can see aria- markup in the html view of Firebug on FF.  Here's a 
 > screenshot:
 > http://david-bolters-computer.local/workspace/exploratory/google-reader-aria.png
 > 
 > (I squished the window to waste less bits)
 > 
 > In this example the body has the aria-activedescendent specified. I 
 > imagine Google might be injecting the aria markup (via AxsJax) so I'm no 
 > sure what to expect on Safari. I tried using Drosera on Webkit but 
 > didn't see the markup there either. Maybe Charles or T.V. will chime in :)
 > 
 > cheers,
 > David
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > > (In-the-wild use of ARIA is important for us for prioritization, and  
 > > eventually testing, which is why I'd like to know about it.)
 > >
 > > Cheers,
 > > Maciej
 > >
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