Re: WebKit and GNOME
- From: David Bolter <david bolter utoronto ca>
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs apple com>
- Cc: dev-accessibility lists mozilla org, "desktop-devel-list gnome org" <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: WebKit and GNOME
- Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:13:43 -0400
Hi Maciej,
Reposting with the correct URL...
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Bolter wrote:
Hi Maciej,
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
On Apr 1, 2008, at 12:13 PM, David Bolter wrote:
Hi Maciej,
Thanks very much for providing this information. I have a brief
comment about your accessibility section below:
This wording "Sometimes ARIA is mentioned in the context of
accessibility - this is an interesting technology for future web
apps" doesn't seem quite right to me. ARIA enabled browsers such
as Firefox provide access to ARIA enabled DHTML applications
today. Opera and IE8 are adding support today. Google is putting
ARIA into its web applications.
So far as I know, there isn't any major web app yet that is
already using ARIA. I would appreciate correction on this front if
I have missed anything.
Sure. I'm not sure what classifies as a major web app, but how about
google reader?
http://www.google.com/reader/view/?ui=axs
I did find Google Reader in the FAQ just now, but it took me a while
to find the ARIA-enhanced version, since the main version does not
have ARIA markup and just has an invisible link. I'm looking right now
for actual signs of ARIA markup in the axs version using the live DOM
view of the Safari web inspector, I can't seem to find any elements
with aria-* attributes on them. Can anyone help me figure out where to
look?
You can see aria- markup in the html view of Firebug on FF. Here's a
screenshot:
http://david.atrc.utoronto.ca/exploratory/google-reader-aria.png
(I squished the window to waste less bits)
In this example the body has the aria-activedescendent specified. I
imagine Google might be injecting the aria markup (via AxsJax) so I'm no
sure what to expect on Safari. I tried using Drosera on Webkit but
didn't see the markup there either. Maybe Charles or T.V. will chime in :)
cheers,
David
(In-the-wild use of ARIA is important for us for prioritization, and
eventually testing, which is why I'd like to know about it.)
Cheers,
Maciej
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