Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

[Xavier Claessens <xclaesse gmail com>]

Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 �0:03 +0100, Martyn Russell a �it :
> Xavier Claessens wrote:
> > Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 �0:07 +0200, Mikael Hallendal a �it :
> >> 27 sep 2007 kl. 09.07 skrev Xavier Claessens:
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >>> Right, libempathy and libemapthy-gtk are GPL because it contains
> >>> code from Gossip. libempathy mostly contains trivial code from
> >>> gossip, 
> >>>
> >>> the rest is rewritten by me or some collabora workers who
> >>> are 100% OK to relicence, so it shouldn't be a problem to
> >>> relicence libempathy to LGPL. libempathy-gtk is more a problem
> >>> since lots of non-trivial code is written by Gossip developers
> >>> who doesn't seems to agree to relicence to LGPL...
> >>
> >> I'm getting slightly tired of you Xavier, again.
> >> 
> >> What are you basing this on? I for one haven't been asked at all 
> >> regarding this topic.
> > 
> > I asked Martyn's opinion long ago, I know he is not the only person
> > to decide but he wasn't for the relicencing.
> 
> Rob basically summed it up perfectly.
> 
> I have to say, I agree with Mikael, this is just not true. Empathy looks
> EXACTLY like Gossip for the most part, most of the widgets have taken
> years to write. To say that the code you use is trivial is insulting.

You got me completely wrong! I said libempathy-gtk contains lots of
NON-Trivial code from Gossip. What I said is libempathy (the non-gui
part) contains very few code from Gossip, what remains from Gossip in
libempathy is trivial things.

> Mikael, Richard and I (not to forget the countless others supplying
> patches) have spent a lot of time writing these widgets and the
> supporting library (libgossip). All you have done is made a few
> improvements and put them them on top of another backend.

This time it's insulting to me! I didn't made "few improvements", I
really worked hard and improved lots of things everywhere in the code. I
didn't just implemented another backend, I refactored the whole code.
Take for example that Empathy contains the half of code lines than
Gossip, and no, it's not only because I'm using external libs like
MissionControl, I removed all code duplication there is in Gossip.

Xavier.