Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

[Jamie McCracken <jamiemcc blueyonder co uk>]

Steve Frécinaux wrote:
> Iain * wrote:
>
> > > As for .NET, even Microsoft themselves had to pull back from using it for core
> > > functionality due to performance reasons - why do we think we will do any better?
> > As someone who is running mono based applications fairly regularly, I
> > haven't noticed any major performance issues. We're not talking here
> > about replacing the core libraries with c# based ones, we're talking
> > about applications, and for me the mono based apps are just as fast as
> > the C based ones.
>
> I'm not really against having C# apps in the core (in fact I don't
> really mind), what I'm more frightening about is having applications
> that run all the time, using managed languages, and, as a consequence,
> taking up a fairly large amount of memory, from the computer start to
> the shutdown.
>
> That's what I'm against including libraries, daemons or applets written
> either in C#, or in python, while having small apps you close once
> you're done (like alacarte) is fine.
>
> ATM, required C#/python apps are far from required (well, I might be
> wrong, after all apps do not really advertise what language they are
> written with), but I guess we should have guidelines wrt that (and yeah,
> I know deskbar is already in, and no I don't use it).
>
> Think about it: having an application you run a short time do not really
> impact on your available memory, so it's not a real issue on
> "low-memory" system (like mine: 224 Megs are not much memory these
> days), but long-running ones do.

+1 - you effectively summed up my view as well :)

I also think what one of the SUN chaps said about having layers in Gnome 
makes more sense. Gnome to me is a pic 'n' mix system where everyone has 
basically the same core all in C (the libraries, the daemons, panel, 
file manager and nothing else) and everything else is optional.

Trying to define a "one size fits all" desktop using a myriad of 
incompatible platforms and technologies somehow just doesn't feel right 
(especially if you have a low end system or limited memory).

Just my thoughts...

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Mr Jamie McCracken
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