Re: metacity-list gnome org


	For some reason, this sounds suspiciously like a semi-moderated list to
me.  Known contributors could post without moderation, but others have
posting access only if the moderator approves the message.  Contributer
only lists suck (IMO) because the whole point is to allow outside people
to bring up interesting topics on occasion.  

	Anyway, then the question simply becomes: who would be the moderator of
such a list?

On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 20:47 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 13:34 -0400, Owen Williams wrote:
> > Bugzilla is a good thing, but not if the maintainers seemingly ignore
> > it.  The solution may not be a new mailing list, but simply an increased
> > level of responsiveness on bugzilla.  I don't expect maintainers to
> > chime in on every half-baked wishlist, but when it comes to
> > long-requested and useful features with working patches there should be
> > more communication.  
> I can't disagree, but will a list help?
> My basic fear about the list is that we'll get too many "window
> management enthusiasts" who would never write a patch, or would only
> write stupid patches of the "yes we should fix the root cause but it
> sure was easy to add two lines of code here" variety, and then we'd get
> endless dumb flamewars between these people and between these people and
> the maintainers. I just don't care to read a bunch of crap mail like
> that. At least in bugzilla you can mark dup and people have to look at
> all the old comments and come up with something original to say.
> And having to create a bugzilla account and find the right bug to
> comment on and read that bug first adds some barrier to entry.
> Maybe a list with everyone except known contributors in read-only
> mode ;-)
> Anyhow, Elijah is doing way more work than me on metacity these days, so
> really I'm just another lamer with an opinion. As you say I can't even
> keep up with patches.

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