Re: gnome-utils patch

[Elijah Newren <newren gmail com>]

On 10/4/05, Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:42 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > On 10/4/05, Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org> wrote:
> > > I guess it is, but usually it is much quicker to send the patch
> > > directly, and when that doesn't work, add it to bugzilla :)
> >
> > Well, I guess there's a number of poeple that do this but to me it
> > sounds like a scary slippery slope that could lead to things getting
> > out of hand, especially with this statement of yours (just imagine if
> > everyone starts bypassing bugzilla and posts all patches to
> > d-d-l--you've suggested that it's effective in some sense or another).
> >
> I did it this way, because for years, in the Evolution team, we found
> out patches got lost in Bugzilla, whereas having them sent to a list
> (evolution-patches@, not the main list), made them more visible to us,
> the developers. Of course, if that behaviour is not acceptable, I'll
> just submit my patches to bugzilla.
>
> I am not going to discuss whether that's a good idea or not, since we
> already had that discussion for Evolution for weeks, but in my
> experience, people tend to pay more attention to mailing lists than to
> bugzilla.
>
> Maybe we want a desktop-devel-patches@ list?

Yeah, it's definitely an issue that would be great to improve, whether
by creating mailing lists for each module, creating a
desktop-devel-patches@ list, listing the maintainers better, getting
better patch queries, having automated patch reminders from bugzilla
in some not-overwhelming-but-condensed way so that people actually
look at them, or whatever, it's something we should think about (Olav
and I have discussed a number of ideas on the bugzilla side of things
and I'll try to be helping him out with some of them sometime soon...)

> >  Of course, I'm just one of the jerks that thinks d-d-l volume is way
> > too high...  ;-)  Seriously, though, I'd personally prefer if d-d-l
> > was used for discussions that can't be contained to a single module.
> >
> yes, you are right. Maybe each project should have their own lists for
> this sort of things? In fact, some modules in GNOME CVS have no
> MAINTAINERS file, so it is very difficult to find out who are those
> maintainers, and thus the first thought is to send it to d-d-l, and thus
> its volume increases.

We're trying to at least keep the maintainers up to date on the wiki,
e.g. http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirteen/Desktop.  That is one
thing that may help you with things like this.  Olav and I have some
more ideas for improving bugzilla that may help with this as well, and
I intend to help with it soon...

Cheers,
Elijah