Re: libnotify

[Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com>]

Thanks for the summary. This sounds great. I look forward to its use in
the Desktop and eventual promotion to the Platform.

On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:01 -0700, Christian Hammond wrote:
> Oh, and if we get this all in shape in time, we do plan to propose it
> for GNOME 2.12.
> 
> Christian
> 
> On 5/26/05, Christian Hammond <chipx86 gmail com> wrote:
> > Hi Murray.
> > 
> > In short, not a whole lot, but Mike Hearn and I have been forming a
> > strategy for it.
> > 
> > I started changing the code base to make libnotify and
> > notification-daemon compatibile with D-BUS 0.3x last night. It's not
> > in SVN yet, but it'll be in there when I have something working.
> > 
> > After this is done, we're going to put out a release and hack on
> > plugins/patches for Gaim, Xmms, Rhythmbox, Evolution, and other apps.
> > Hopefully get a user base. After that, I plan to work on a new
> > notification daemon that is plugin-based to show off what all can be
> > done with notifications and to provide for themes (both appearance
> > plugins and what I call "transitional" plugins, which are responsible
> > for displaying the actual notification, and may fade it wobble it in).
> > 
> > Not everybody likes the spec, but I think that's because a lot of
> > people want notifications to be more than what they are. Some people
> > want to embed download windows in it, or drag things to and from it,
> > or display a web page with CSS, or embed anything X11 based in it.
> > 
> > I believe these type of things aren't needed, as these are passive
> > notifications and are designed to be little things that simply notify
> > you of something and then go away. Furthermore, just embedding widgets
> > in it adds unnecessary complexity to the spec and implementation,
> > limits it on other platforms, and makes theming far more difficult
> > than it needs to be.
> > 
> > As such, we are not adding this support to the spec, at least not for
> > now. We'll see what people end up using this for. It's been my
> > experience that when a new thing such as this comes out, people demand
> > unending flexibility and come out with all kinds of corner cases,
> > maybe of which (in this case) a dialog should still be used for.
> > However, given time, people tend to be okay with the solution given.
> > The File Chooser debates spring to mind.
> > 
> > We are not saying that we may not someday add this type of capability
> > to the spec and implementation, but it is not in our plans as of now.
> > The Guifications project on Linux and Windows has plans to support our
> > spec as-is, as does (last I knew) the Growl project on MacOS X, which
> > provides a similar notification platform. And last I checked, the
> > Windows Longhorn implementation of notifications are very similar to
> > ours, which would allow for tighter integration when porting some
> > Linux apps to Longhorn in the future.
> > 
> > There are no existing serious competitors to my knowledge, though.
> > There's a couple of notification daemons sitting around, but none have
> > been seriously adopted. At least one or two of those that I have seen
> > are implementations of our spec.
> > 
> > Christian
> > 
> > On 5/26/05, Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com> wrote:
> > > Christian, what's happened with libnotify since you proposed it for the
> > > GNOME 2.10 Platform?
> > >
> > > Is it now a freedesktop project, and part of a release set, or will you
> > > propose it for GNOME 2.12? Is it likely to be used soon by any GNOME
> > > Desktop applications? Are there competing solutions or does everyone
> > > like this one?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Murray Cumming
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