Re: eggcups (and libgnomecups) for 2.12

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 11:26 -0300, James Henstridge wrote:
> Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> >Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 14:56 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
> >
> >  
> >
> >>So this is what gives me the printer icon in the notification tray in
> >>fedora? Ubuntu has something similar? That's gnome-cups-icon, right?
> >>What's the story/comparison there?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Right, Ubuntu uses gnome-cups-manager which has gnome-cups-icon to do
> >this. gnome-cups-manager also has an UI which make possible to configure
> >whatever printer you want, eggcups has not such feature (it autodetects
> >USB printers but if you have a smb or a lp printer you are screwed).
> >Which means that some people will probably install both (Ubuntu will not
> >drop gnome-cups-manager by example) and get duplicated features ...
> >  
> >
> Does it make sense to use the "active print job watching" feature of 
> eggcups (the part that Colin is proposing for inclusion) with the 
> printer management features of gnome-cups-manager?

Right, I don't think they conflict conceptually.

The long term plan was to merge them, and I think it is still is, just
blocking on time from the relevant people.

I had also been waiting for the GNOME Session Services stuff to land (if
eggcups goes in 2.12 we'll have to patch the default session list or
hardcode it in gnome-session); but when I heard Ubuntu may be adopting
eggcups I thought there would be value in having it available in the
GNOME core so distributors don't have to patch their systems.

> It seems that with an appropriately patched CUPS, eggcups should give 
> more accurate information about the print jobs (since it gets notified 
> by the print daemon, rather than polling).

Well, it does poll, but just not all printers all of the time; it only
polls when you've printed something, and only until the job completes.

That's the technical result of the design being focused around a
particular users' print jobs rather than printers.

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