Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

["John (J5) Palmieri" <johnp redhat com>]

On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:14 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> Hey, guys- if I wanted to test this:
> (1) what would I need to do to set it up, exactly? (presume that I
> have all of GNOME running from source, and can patch as needed.)

You just need to patch gnome-session with Rodrigo's latest patch
(turning it on with whatever the compile switch is - Rodrigo?) and
compile libgnomeservice from CVS.

> (2) how could I tell if it succeeded/failed? What are the
> expectations, design goals, etc.? What new things should I be able to
> do as a user (or admin) that I couldn't do before? What things do you
> expect won't work?

For right now, I would keep checking that we don't hose the session with
the patch turned on (i.e. everything works as normal).  Rodrigo, can you
supply Luis with a service that uses the wrapper?  You would need that
to check if the service starting code is working properly.

Future looking we are going to replace the current hard coded services
(like gnome-settings-daemon) as libgnomeservice's and have them start up
using the dependency code.  At that point as we patch services you will
be able to check if the services do indeed start in the right order and
even profile to see if there is something we can be doing to get things
started faster.

> Obviously, i'd like to test this... making all this Not Suck seems
> like a big step towards being more manageable/deployable. But I'm not
> exactly sure what 'all this' is, exactly, so I'm not sure how to test
> it :)
> 
> Thanks-
> Luis
> 
> 
> On 7/11/05, Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org> wrote:
> > Updated patch attached
> > 
> > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 17:44 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 15:15 -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
> > > > Hi Rodrigo,
> > > >
> > > > > ok, attached patch, with the services framework disabled by default.
> > > > You can't just disable the session management stuff.
> > > >
> > > right sorry, I forgot to enable the code for that
> > >
> > > > The right approach will be to load service manager stuff first, then
> > > > load the session.  Also, if something was started by the service
> > > > manager then it shouldn't be started again by the session manager.
> > > >
> > > this is the only thing missing in my patch (which only includes changes
> > > in existing files, the new files, are the same version as in my previous
> > > patch). I guess I would just need to go over the client_list in Session.
> > > But, the problem I see is how to check we really don't want to start
> > > that process from the session? That is, I might have a
> > > gnome-service-launch process in autostart, and another one, to start a
> > > different/local service on the session.
> > >
> > > So, how to deal with that? Compare the whole command line?
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