Re: Proposed Modules, My Take

[Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com>]

Thanks. I agree with all this apart from a couple of minor points.

I'd rather wait until 2.11/2.12 to add sound-juicer because I think it's
only worthwhile when it can be a replacement for the CD player that
happens to rip CDs too.

I haven't been following the gnome-user-share discussion enough to guess
at a consensus.

Also, gnome-python was proposed for the Bindings, and I thoroughly
support that.

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 11:57 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Gotta crank up the proposed module discussion, so here's my take on the
> proposed modules as discussed so far. It's my perspective of what the
> consensus may be, so may be tinged with a bit of personal bias. Don't be
> afraid to use the Calipers of Re-Education on me in reply to this mail. :)
> 
>  * gnome-schedule
>  * gnome_war_pad
> 
> Neither of these modules have notified the release-team of regular releases
> during the development period, and there was no wide approval of their
> inclusion when they were discussed.
> 
>  * polypaudio
> 
> There wasn't an obvious consensus to add polypaudio (or even remove esd), so
> we're stuck with the status quo for yet another release. Hopefully if the
> planned HAL integration work is done for 2.12, we may have some chance of
> convincing the policy-scared. ;-)
> 
>  * libgnomesu
> 
> Only one module in the Desktop release is adding support for it, and it is
> not clear that libgnomesu solves the privilege escalation problem suitably
> for GNOME, for cross-platform, policy and technical reasons.
> 
>  * gwget
> 
> Very little consensus that this is appropriate for inclusion in the Desktop
> release.
> 
>  * gnome-doc-utils - include!
> 
> This has had a lot of positive buy-in from developers, and is used by yelp.
> Definitely should go in.
> 
>  * pygtk
> 
> The consensus seemed to be that we clearly document that pygtk-based apps
> are appropriate for the Desktop release rather than adding pygtk itself to
> either Platform or Desktop. As yet, no pygtk-based apps have been proposed
> for inclusion anyway.
> 
>  * totem - include!
> 
> Let's do it. The GStreamer support has been dramatically improved. If we can
> watch or listen to vorbis/theora streams reliably, it's ready. :-)
> 
>  * galago, libnotify, notification-daemon
> 
> None of these have been used by other Desktop modules, nor have had regular
> releases during the development period.
> 
>  * nautilus-sendto
> 
> Has not had regular releases during the development period, but after the
> discussion about gnome-user-share, it looks like something we should very
> seriously consider for a later GNOME release.
> 
>  * goobox
> 
> There was a rough consensus that we should include sound-juicer instead, as
> it has been around for much longer, and is already shipped by many of our
> distributors. Choosing something entirely different seems like unnecessary
> software churn.
> 
>  * gnome-backgrounds - include!
> 
> Not hugely controversial or demanding module, very little discussion, but it
> has at least had a release on ftp.gnome.org. Tentative yes, pending other
> input.
> 
>  * gnome-menus - include!
> 
> Critical infrastructural component, regularly released, has had lots of
> attention. Can't ship without it. :-)
> 
>  * gnome-user-share
> 
> There seemed to be a rough consensus that we should be looking at a send and
> receive style interface to solve the use cases g-u-s was designed to help
> with. That, in addition to the somewhat controversial Apache and "~/Public"
> issues seems to indicate that there wasn't a strong consensus to include it.
> :-)
> 
>  * gnome-keyring-manager
> 
> Very little discussion about it this time around, and it hasn't had regular
> releases during the development period.
> 
> - Jeff
> 
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