Re: Warts, Features and Icebergs [Was: Request for breakage in gnome-panel]

[Jeff Waugh <jdub perkypants org>]

<quote who="Bryan Clark">

> So what if we are flamed for removing this?  If it's the right thing to
> do, isn't that worth getting flamed for? ;-)
> 
> Even if the 'Run Applications' has been around since the beginning of
> GNOME, that doesn't mean it's a good thing.  If we keep with that
> mentality we'll never be able to make any progress, we wouldn't have been
> able to remove the old menu.

We've made an incremental improvement to the menu model without tossing off
functionality. That's a good step, so let's not get too caught up in the
action.

> This is a trivial thing.  It's one menu item.

Indeed!

> It happens to take it's place somewhere I think most people agree it
> shouldn't.  What I'm asking is will it hurt translation, docs, and other
> teams enough that this isn't worth slipping in late.  
> 
> Also, I don't want to think of all the children who will cry when they see
> the Run Applications item in the top level menu.  Do you want to make
> those children cry?  Do you?

That's the rarefied sensibilities getting in the way. We have to get over
the snobbiness and keep concentrating on *real* improvements. The pendulum
has swung too far here, too.

- Jeff

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