Re: Gnome 2.10 Showstoppers : the list



Luis Villa wrote:

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:49:59 -0500, Luis Villa <luis villa gmail com> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 07:43:43 +0100, Paolo Borelli <pborelli katamail com> wrote:
read http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110191 and in particular
the comment #20. We have (almost) the code, but we are not confortable
with the testing: it will go in as soon as 2.11 is branched so to get
tested for a whole developement cycle.

And no, it obviously isn't a show stopper nor a regression.
Yeah, absolutely not. It would be great for someone to do an audit of
this kind of thing and have it as a focus for 2.12, but it totally
isn't a showstopper.

(On a non-release-team-y note, if this is so hard to do, does that
indicate something is deeply fucked in our APIs?)

Yes, API and implementation: gnome-vfs tries to use posix apis to transparently deal with files on remote locations. While this sounds really nice in theory, in practice many protocols cannot implement some of the posix semantics in a sane way (think of trunctate or of an atomic rename). See http://live.gnome.org/GnomeVfsPlans for the beginning of a design discussion.

To that add the fact that many of the vfs modules didn't see much testing outside nautilus, thus some of the stuff which nautilus doesn't use is buggy. For instance, dealing with symlinks on sftp may easily crash the app, or trying correctly deal with permissions on methods different from file:// is next to impossible.


ciao
   paolo


PS: wrt to gedit, lemme note that even if gnome-vfs write didn't make into 2.10, we added a "Save Copy" plugin which allows to save a copy of the document also on remote locations (saving a copy is safer and easier than the real save, since it has not to deal with backups etc).



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